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From Niall Pemberton <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Sanselan as a Commons library
Date Wed, 22 Apr 2009 17:26:56 GMT
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Matt Benson <> wrote:
> --- On Wed, 4/22/09, Carsten Ziegeler <> wrote:
>> From: Carsten Ziegeler <>
>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Sanselan as a Commons library
>> To: "Commons Developers List" <>
>> Date: Wednesday, April 22, 2009, 4:42 AM
>> Phil Steitz wrote
>> > We have a rule of thumb here that in order to graduate
>> a component from
>> > the sandbox to commons proper, we need to have 3
>> committers willing to
>> > work on it (which means more than just "oversight" -
>> more like active
>> > involvement).  This is not a hard and fast rule,
>> but something we like
>> > to adhere to.  We already have too many "dormant"
>> components that should
>> > be moving out to the attic one day, so we aren't keen
>> on promoting
>> > sandbox components or taking on codebases that we
>> can't generate
>> > committer interest in.  So lets see what level of
>> interest we can
>> > generate here for Sanselan.  We welcome all ASF
>> committers at commons
>> > and we don't have a tremendously high bar for
>> contributors who stick
>> > around long enough and play nice, so if we can get
>> some volunteers to
>> > express interest, we can move forward.
>> >
>> I think at least all or nearly most of the current Sanselan
>> committers, e.g.
>> Charles, Philipp and myself will be committed to Sanselan.
> Hi Carsten,
>  I understood Phil's comments to mean that only Charles had been making much in the
way of actual code changes to Sanselan from now for X amount of time into the past.  Do the
other committers have actual knowledge of the codebase, or, failing that, grim determination
to see that Sanselan is properly supported?  ;)  I will try to make some time to peruse
Sanselan's structure myself and would encourage other members of the Commons community to
do the same, as we then might be in a better position to gauge how easily any Java developer
could dive in and lend a hand.

Yes I think saying 3 committers is a bit mis-leading - since Sanselan
entered the incubator Carsten has made the 2nd most commits but that
is only 16 commits and he hasn't committed for over a year. Also the
last commit on the project was over 3 months ago:

So reality is this is currently a one-committer show and looks to be
heading to dormancy.


> -Matt
>> Carsten

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