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From sebb <seb...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out
Date Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:17:06 GMT
On 15/03/2009, Gary Gregory <GGregory@seagullsoftware.com> wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 4:32 AM
>  > To: Commons Developers List
>  > Subject: Re: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out
>  >
>  > On 15/03/2009, Gary Gregory <GGregory@seagullsoftware.com> wrote:
>  > > > -----Original Message-----
>  > >  > From: Henri Yandell [mailto:flamefew@gmail.com]
>  > >  > Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 8:05 PM
>  > >  > To: Commons Developers List
>  > >  > Subject: Re: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out
>  > >  >
>  > >  > On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Gary Gregory
>  > >  > <GGregory@seagullsoftware.com> wrote:
>  > >  > >> -----Original Message-----
>  > >  > >> From: news [mailto:news@ger.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Jörg Schaible
>  > >  > >> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:29 PM
>  > >  > >> To: dev@commons.apache.org
>  > >  > >> Subject: RE: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out
>  > >  > >>
>  > >  > >> Gary Gregory wrote:
>  > >  > >>
>  > >  > >> >> -----Original Message-----
>  > >  > >> >> From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>  > >  > >> >> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 4:52 AM
>  > >  > >> >> To: Commons Developers List
>  > >  > >> >> Subject: Re: [lang] 3.0, what's in; what's out
>  > >  > >> >> >
>  > >  > >> >> >  And the various other backwards incompatible
changes that
>  > people
>  > >  > >> have
>  > >  > >> >> >  been requesting.
>  > >  > >> >>
>  > >  > >> >> Removal of AllxxxTest classes that just group other
tests.
>  > >  > >> >> These just tend to get out of date, potentially complicate
the
>  > POM,
>  > >  > >> >> and IMO don't offer much added value.
>  > >  > >> >
>  > >  > >> > -1
>  > >  > >> >
>  > >  > >> > I use package-level test suites all the time from Eclipse.
>  > Running
>  > >  > all
>  > >  > >> > tests in a given package is a very reasonable thing to
do IMO.
>  > >  > Otherwise
>  > >  > >> I
>  > >  > >> > am forced to the command line where I often cannot ask
Ant or
>  > Maven
>  > >  > to
>  > >  > >> > even run tests in a given package. I am stuck with whatever
the
>  > >  > build's
>  > >  > >> > test target does. Not only that but I'd have to sit through
a
>  > build
>  > >  > >> every
>  > >  > >> > time...
>  > >  > >>
>  > >  > >> Especially with Eclipse there's no need. Open the context menu
of
>  > the
>  > >  > >> package and select run as unit test (or the project to run
all
>  > tests at
>  > >  > >> once). For me those AllXxxxTest suites are simply annoying.
>  > >  > >
>  > >  > > I had missed that menu item in Eclipse! Thanks Jörg.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Is that -1 rescinded for deleting the Suites, Gary?
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Rescinded, retracted and recanted.
>  > >
>  >
>  > I've just discovered one minor issue - EntriesPerformanceTest. This is
>  > in the main lang directory, but not in the LangTestSuite -
>  > deliberately, I suspect, as it take over 100 seconds on my system.
>  >
>  > Perhaps it could be moved into a different package (would have to fix
>  > some access rights), or maybe into a different source tree (same
>  > package - one can run tests from the navigator as well in Eclipse)?
>
>
> new CanOfWorms(".*EntriesPerformanceTest").open()
>
>  Well, the performance tests surely are interesting. It would be great to run such tests
from build to build and check for performance degradation. The issue becomes where is the
performance data stored? As a data file in CVS? OK. Does the build then commits it on every
build? Nah... The commit process should probably be manual. So we'd need a task/goal for that...
>

Or just store an upper bound for the elapsed time in the POM?

>  Gary
>
>
>  > >  Gary
>  > >
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Hen
>  > >  >
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