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From: Paul Libbrecht <paul@activemath.org>
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Subject: Re: [jelly] Is jelly still in development
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 00:27:16 +0100
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Hello John,

I think it would be lovely to start some maintenance and to get an =20
extra committer aboard.
The procedure to become so, however, really starts with the "other =20
methods" (mailing-list and jira in particular).

The focus on the core of jira is rather happy.
I am more than happy to restrict such things as the xml taglib which =20
has been my main usage of jelly (together with ant).

As a first maintenance suggestion, ignoring a possible retirement, I =20
would really like to get the web-pages in a more up-to-date state. =20
(correct getting-started, tag-ref somewhat consistent, ...).

How doable would it be for you to tackle such repair?
I could then try to apply a patch you submit to jira.

I am not sure (and hope not) that the web-site can only be fixed by =20
the migration to maven2...

paul


Le 08-nov.-08 =E0 10:20, John Spackman a =E9crit :
> We're still actively using Jelly and while the usefulness of some of =20=

> the extension modules may be debatable (and definitely without =20
> wishing to enter into a debate of whether it is appropriate to have =20=

> "executable" data), as a core tool Jelly has allowed us to rapidly =20
> produce pluggable languages for defining drawings, web services, =20
> schedules, JDBC configuration, and more where the tag implementation =20=

> configures POJOs.
>
> Coincidentally, we've recently reached the point where we must make =20=

> changes to the code base (bug fixes and new features) and so a =20
> couple of weeks ago I emailed James asking if he was still =20
> maintaining the project and if so what is plans were and whether I'd =20=

> be able to contribute.  Perhaps not surprisingly I didn't receive a =20=

> reply, and now it seems I might have broken protocol by asking him =20
> direct instead of asking here.  My apologies if that was =20
> inappropriate.
>
> We have a number of changes to make to Jelly, and I am prepared to =20
> put myself and my company forward as a maintainer.  If that's =20
> acceptable to you all, the first task would be to briefly update the =20=

> website and make a maintenance release (there are some essential bug =20=

> fixes in SVN that are not in the official release), followed by =20
> various other fixes and additions in a beta release.  Admittedly, my =20=

> focus would be the core of Jelly and the core tags - I do not use =20
> the additional tag libraries and would find it difficult to provide =20=

> a significant amount of regression testing and support for them but =20=

> I'll keep them going where possible and try to help out any users =20
> with problems.
>
> Is this something you would be interested in?  If the conclusion by =20=

> the list is that Jelly should still be retired then as an =20
> alternative would it be possible for me to fork the Jelly project =20
> out of commons and into (for example) SourceForge?
>
> In case it makes a difference, I am not currently an Apache committer.
>
> Regards,
> John
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henri Yandell" =20
> <flamefew@gmail.com>
> To: "Commons Developers List" <dev@commons.apache.org>; =
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> >
> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 12:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [jelly] Is jelly still in development
>
>
>> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 3:11 PM, ralph.goers @dslextreme.com
>> <rgoers@apache.org> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Henri Yandell =20
>>> <flamefew@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm thinking we should:
>>>>
>>>> a) remove from trunks-proper
>>>> b) Update the homepage to say "Not Actively Maintained"
>>>> c) Update the Commons homepage to put this into a release =20
>>>> subcategory
>>>> of "Not Actively Maintained"
>>>> d) Put said N.A.M. note on the JIRA page.
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
>>> If it is removed from trunks-proper where does it go?
>>
>> trunks-proper is a dir of svn:externals, so it's not lost just not in
>> our active development set.
>>
>> Hen
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