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From "Phil Steitz" <phil.ste...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [math] should version 2.0 be targeted to Java 5 ?
Date Thu, 15 May 2008 20:41:29 GMT
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Luc Maisonobe <Luc.Maisonobe@free.fr> wrote:
> Phil Steitz a écrit :
>>
>> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 1:55 AM, Emmanuel Bourg <ebourg@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> James Carman a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> Would it be better to make it Math 2.0?  With a language level change
>>>> like that, it should probably be a new major version.  You should also
>>>> consider putting the stuff in org.apache.commons.math2 packages to
>>>> avoid "jar hell" issues.
>>>
>>> And if you do so, you'll have to change the Maven identification of the
>>> jar.
>>> That's the right time to release Commons Math as
>>> org.apache.commons:commons-math instead of commons-math:commons-math.
>>>
>>
>> Both good points.  Lets get the maven namespace fixed in 2.0.  Thanks
>> in advance for help making sure we don't screw that up.
>>
>> Regarding package renaming, there are very few backward incompatible
>> changes lined up for 2.0, and all of the proposed 1.5-dependent stuff
>> is new, so I am hesistant to do a wholesale change.  What would be the
>> problem with renaming only packages that contain classes with
>> incompatible changes?
>
> I see three problems with a mixed approach like this.
>
>  - it is inconsistent and therefore difficult to understand to end-users
>  - it prevents using simple search/replace to switch from 1.x to 2.x
>  - it doesn't help when the two jars are in classpath and a class
>   with no incompatible change (i.e still in a .math.something
>   package) calls a class with an incompatible change

Assumiing that happens, which I guess we can't rule out, so point taken.

>
> I'm also quite reluctant to packages names change, but it is only a personal
> taste and therefore not important. I agree this is the safer solution as it
> handles things properly.
>
> Here is my proposal, summarizing what has been discussed so far in this
> thread and adding my own bias:
>
>  - commons-math 2.0 will target Java 1.5 as the minimal version
>  - the maven groupId will be changed from commons-math to
>   org.apache.commons (the artifactID is unchanged)
>  - all packages will be relocated under org.apache.commons.math2
>
> If nobody complains (mainly about the third point), I am going to perform
> these changes in branch 2.0 on Sunday.

I guess the third point gives me heartburn. Given the relatively small
number of incompatible changes, I do not see the need to make a
wholesale change to the package name and force all users to make
source-level changes to upgrade.  I am +1 on fixing the maven groupID,
though and upping the required JDK level to 1.5.

Phil
>
> Luc
>
>>
>> Phil
>>
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