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From "Mohammad Nour El-Din" <nour.moham...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [Validator] Apache Commons Validator and JSR#303
Date Sun, 30 Mar 2008 11:40:11 GMT
Thanks Niall :)

On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 1:28 PM, Niall Pemberton
<niall.pemberton@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 4:33 PM, simon.kitching@chello.at
>
> <simon.kitching@chello.at> wrote:
>  > Hi Mohammed,
>  >
>
> >  To clarify, the process Niall recommended is as follows:
>  >
>  >  (1)
>  >  You send an email in a separate thread, requesting sandbox commit rights
>  >  for yourself and the other initial committer.
>  >
>  >  Provide your apache ids of course.
>  >
>  >  It might be nice to provide links to show some evidence of your
>  >  committer access, eg links to the "developers" lists for the projects
>  >  you currently are committers for.
>  >
>  >  Also provide a very brief summary of what you intend to do in the
>  >  sandbox, for people who have not read this thread.
>  >
>  >  (2)
>  >  After a couple of days, assuming there are no objections to this
>  >  proposal, Niall (or someone else) will copy validator trunk into the
>  >  sandbox.
>
>  Done:
>
>  http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/sandbox/validator2/
>
>
>  >  (3)
>  >  Hopefully your sandbox commit rights will also be done by then and you
>  >  can get started.
>  >
>  >  Of course, you can also use the next few days to start a design
>  >  discussion on this list, or create some wiki pages for architectural
>  >  discussion, links to the relevant projects, etc.
>  >
>  >  I'm happy to help with getting this project started if needed (I'm also
>  >  a MyFaces committer).
>
>  Good summary, thanks Simon!
>
>  Niall
>
>
>
>  >  Regards,
>  >  Simon
>  >
>  >  Mohammad Nour El-Din schrieb:
>  >  > And u did it :( ???
>  >  >
>  >  > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 6:07 PM, Niall Pemberton
>  >  > <niall.pemberton@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >  >
>  >  >> On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
>  >  >>
>  >  >> <nour.mohammad@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >  >>
>  >  >>
>  >  >>> Thanks Niall a lot. One last question for the sandbox project - if
>  >  >>>
>  >  >>  >  approved - can I help you in creating whatever required for that
>  >  >>  >  project, I just want to learn how these things are made :), I
mean
>  >  >>  >  steap related to creating new projects and so .
>  >  >>
>  >  >>  Acutally, I think if you get Karma then you can do it yourself - I was
>  >  >>  just going to create a validator2 directory here:
>  >  >>  http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/sandbox/
>  >  >>
>  >  >>  and then copy the validator trunk.
>  >  >>
>  >  >>
>  >  >>
>  >  >>  Niall
>  >  >>
>  >  >>  >  On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Niall Pemberton
>  >  >>  >
>  >  >>  >
>  >  >>  > <niall.pemberton@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >  >>  >  > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
>  >  >>  >  >
>  >  >>  >  > <nour.mohammad@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >  >>  >  >
>  >  >>  >  > > Hi simon...
>  >  >>  >  >  >
>  >  >>  >  >  >   Thanks a lot :), but I like the idea of Naill, that
is make a
>  >  >>  >  >  >  sandbox project for Validator2, so I can work away
from the release
>  >  >>  >  >  >  process of the current implementation of validator
- Validator1, and
>  >  >>  >  >  >  when I have a working thing, we can get it out of
sandbox to commons
>  >  >>  >  >  >  proper as part of the main Validator project, so people
can have 2
>  >  >>  >  >  >  falvours of Validator either 1/2. What do you think
Naill ??
>  >  >>  >  >
>  >  >>  >  >  Yes I'm happy with that. I'll leave it a couple of days,
to give other
>  >  >>  >  >  people a chance to give opnions - but if there are no objections/other
>  >  >>  >  >  proposals then I'll go ahead and set that up in the Sandbox.
For
>  >  >>  >  >  sandbox access I think its just a case of pinging the list
(probably
>  >  >>  >  >  best in another thread, as it might get missed in this one)
to ask for
>  >  >>  >  >  Sandbox karma for yourself and your MyFaces colleague.
>  >  >>  >  >
>  >  >>  >  >
>  >  >>  >  >
>  >  >>  >  >  Niall
>  >  >>  >  >
>  >  >>  >  >  >
>  >  >>  >  >  >  On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 5:11 PM, simon.kitching@chello.at
>  >  >>  >  >  >  <simon.kitching@chello.at> wrote:
>  >  >>  >  >  >  > Hi Mohammed,
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  One of the purposes of the commons project is
to pool the work of other
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  commons projects, ie extract bits out of other
projects that can be more
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  widely applied. Therefore, the commons project
is pretty open to
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  existing committers on other Apache projects
getting commit access to
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  commons.
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  As long as the PMC/existing validator developers
are happy with the
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  general idea, I think it likely that you (and
any other interested
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  apache committers) would just be granted commit
access to apply changes
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  yourself.
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  Regards,
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  Simon
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  Mohammad Nour El-Din schrieb:
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >
>  >  >>  >  >  >  > > Sorry for the last stupid question I could
have know it from site, but
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  > one more - I hope not stupid - question,
you will apply the Validator2
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  > code in trunk and make old validator in
a separate branch ???
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Niall
Pemberton
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  > <niall.pemberton@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >> On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Mohammad
Nour El-Din
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >> <nour.mohammad@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>> Just to make sure, this is where
trunk code exist
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>>
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/proper/validator/trunk/
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  Yes
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  Niall
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 4:54
PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  > <nour.mohammad@gmail.com>
wrote:
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  > > I skimmed over the JSR -
not a detailed look actually - and through
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  using annotations you
declare the validator class, so we can adapt the
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  current validators, or
at least make minor changes to make them
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  suitable to be used through
JSR#303/Validator2 impl. I will download
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  the code today and take
a more detailed look at JSR PDF and if I found
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  more info I will send
them back by the end of this week.
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at
4:49 PM, Niall Pemberton
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  <niall.pemberton@gmail.com>
wrote:
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008
at 2:06 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din <mnour@apache.org> wrote:
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  > Hi All...
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >   Recently
an EDR JSR#303 has been published on JCP -
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=303
. They intend to make a unified
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  Bean Validation
APIs/Framework based on using annotations and XML
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  configuration
files, and they define the way how to apply and use
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  validation,
and it will be part of the Java Beans model.
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  I am a committer
in Apache OpenEJB, and we need such functionality for
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  bean validation
through the process of deploying an enterprise java
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  bean - we
have a home made validation framework now. And I have a
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  colleague
of mine who is working in Apache MyFaces Tomahawk-
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  http://myfaces.apache.org/tomahawk/index.html
- and he is interested
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  in such functionality
to apply validation regarding JSF.
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  My colleague
and I are very interested in implementing this JSR in
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  Apache Commons
Validator, but seems that the project is not active for
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  a while, so
I am asking how our changes are going to be applied to
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  Commons Validator.
I mean are we going to submit changes in patches
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  and someone
will review and commit - but no one is active now to do
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  that. Or I
can get a committer access to apply changes and review
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  patches submitted
by my colleague. Please advice and help.
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  Do you have an idea
how you want to do this in Commons Validator?
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  Specifically I'm
wondering whether this would be a re-write or whether
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  you think the exisiting
framework could be adapated to JSR 303? My
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  thinking was that
implementing JSR 303 would involved and
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  brand-new-replacement
for the existing framework - Validator2.
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  Niall
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  P.S. I need
your reply ASAP to stat planning and coordination with my colleague.
>  >  >>  >  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >
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>  >  >>  >  >  >  - Mohammad Nour
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