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From "Niall Pemberton" <niall.pember...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [Validator] Apache Commons Validator and JSR#303
Date Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:07:18 GMT
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
<nour.mohammad@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Niall a lot. One last question for the sandbox project - if
>  approved - can I help you in creating whatever required for that
>  project, I just want to learn how these things are made :), I mean
>  steap related to creating new projects and so .

Acutally, I think if you get Karma then you can do it yourself - I was
just going to create a validator2 directory here:
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/sandbox/

and then copy the validator trunk.

Niall

>  On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Niall Pemberton
>
>
> <niall.pemberton@gmail.com> wrote:
>  > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
>  >
>  > <nour.mohammad@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >
>  > > Hi simon...
>  >  >
>  >  >   Thanks a lot :), but I like the idea of Naill, that is make a
>  >  >  sandbox project for Validator2, so I can work away from the release
>  >  >  process of the current implementation of validator - Validator1, and
>  >  >  when I have a working thing, we can get it out of sandbox to commons
>  >  >  proper as part of the main Validator project, so people can have 2
>  >  >  falvours of Validator either 1/2. What do you think Naill ??
>  >
>  >  Yes I'm happy with that. I'll leave it a couple of days, to give other
>  >  people a chance to give opnions - but if there are no objections/other
>  >  proposals then I'll go ahead and set that up in the Sandbox. For
>  >  sandbox access I think its just a case of pinging the list (probably
>  >  best in another thread, as it might get missed in this one) to ask for
>  >  Sandbox karma for yourself and your MyFaces colleague.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >  Niall
>  >
>  >  >
>  >  >  On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 5:11 PM, simon.kitching@chello.at
>  >  >  <simon.kitching@chello.at> wrote:
>  >  >  > Hi Mohammed,
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  One of the purposes of the commons project is to pool the work of
other
>  >  >  >  commons projects, ie extract bits out of other projects that can be
more
>  >  >  >  widely applied. Therefore, the commons project is pretty open to
>  >  >  >  existing committers on other Apache projects getting commit access
to
>  >  >  >  commons.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  As long as the PMC/existing validator developers are happy with the
>  >  >  >  general idea, I think it likely that you (and any other interested
>  >  >  >  apache committers) would just be granted commit access to apply changes
>  >  >  >  yourself.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  Regards,
>  >  >  >  Simon
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  Mohammad Nour El-Din schrieb:
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  > > Sorry for the last stupid question I could have know it from site,
but
>  >  >  >  > one more - I hope not stupid - question, you will apply the Validator2
>  >  >  >  > code in trunk and make old validator in a separate branch ???
>  >  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Niall Pemberton
>  >  >  >  > <niall.pemberton@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  >> On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
>  >  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >  >> <nour.mohammad@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >  >>> Just to make sure, this is where trunk code exist
>  >  >  >  >>>
>  >  >  >  >>  >
>  >  >  >  >>  >  http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/commons/proper/validator/trunk/
>  >  >  >  >>  >
>  >  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >  >>  Yes
>  >  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >  >>  Niall
>  >  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >  >>  >
>  >  >  >  >>  >  On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
>  >  >  >  >>  >
>  >  >  >  >>  > <nour.mohammad@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >  >  >  >>  >
>  >  >  >  >>  >
>  >  >  >  >>  > > I skimmed over the JSR - not a detailed look actually
- and through
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  using annotations you declare the validator
class, so we can adapt the
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  current validators, or at least make minor changes
to make them
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  suitable to be used through JSR#303/Validator2
impl. I will download
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  the code today and take a more detailed look
at JSR PDF and if I found
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  more info I will send them back by the end of
this week.
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Niall Pemberton
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  <niall.pemberton@gmail.com> wrote:
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Mohammad
Nour El-Din <mnour@apache.org> wrote:
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  > Hi All...
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >   Recently an EDR JSR#303 has been
published on JCP -
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=303
. They intend to make a unified
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  Bean Validation APIs/Framework based
on using annotations and XML
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  configuration files, and they define
the way how to apply and use
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  validation, and it will be part
of the Java Beans model.
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  I am a committer in Apache OpenEJB,
and we need such functionality for
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  bean validation through the process
of deploying an enterprise java
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  bean - we have a home made validation
framework now. And I have a
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  colleague of mine who is working
in Apache MyFaces Tomahawk-
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  http://myfaces.apache.org/tomahawk/index.html
- and he is interested
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  in such functionality to apply validation
regarding JSF.
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  My colleague and I are very interested
in implementing this JSR in
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  Apache Commons Validator, but seems
that the project is not active for
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  a while, so I am asking how our
changes are going to be applied to
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  Commons Validator. I mean are we
going to submit changes in patches
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  and someone will review and commit
- but no one is active now to do
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  that. Or I can get a committer access
to apply changes and review
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  patches submitted by my colleague.
Please advice and help.
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  Do you have an idea how you want to do
this in Commons Validator?
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  Specifically I'm wondering whether this
would be a re-write or whether
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  you think the exisiting framework could
be adapated to JSR 303? My
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  thinking was that implementing JSR 303
would involved and
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  brand-new-replacement for the existing
framework - Validator2.
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  Niall
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >  >  P.S. I need your reply ASAP to stat
planning and coordination with my colleague.
>  >  >  >  >>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  >
>  >  >  >
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>  >  >  - Mohammad Nour
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