Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-commons-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 67159 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2008 16:47:47 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 8 Jan 2008 16:47:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 22580 invoked by uid 500); 8 Jan 2008 16:47:35 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-commons-dev-archive@commons.apache.org Received: (qmail 22514 invoked by uid 500); 8 Jan 2008 16:47:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@commons.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@commons.apache.org Received: (qmail 22505 invoked by uid 99); 8 Jan 2008 16:47:35 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 08 Jan 2008 08:47:34 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [213.46.255.22] (HELO viefep15-int.chello.at) (213.46.255.22) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:47:22 +0000 Received: from viefep15 ([127.0.0.1]) by viefep15-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20080108164714.RDQT23504.viefep15-int.chello.at@viefep15> for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2008 17:47:14 +0100 Message-ID: <32973564.1199810834516.JavaMail.root@viefep15> Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 17:47:14 +0100 From: Simon Kitching To: Jakarta Commons Developers List Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release commons-parent 7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: from 62.116.38.218 by web-edge.chello.com; Tue, 8 Jan 2008 17:47:13 +0100 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org ---- Niall Pemberton schrieb: > On Jan 8, 2008 4:11 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: > > > > Does the current parent pom deal with adding NOTICE.txt and > > > > LICENSE.txt to the javadoc jar files? > > > > > > No - but AIUI it doesn't need to since it only contains the generated > > > javadoc and not anything we develop. > > > > Javadoc is full of copyright - that's why it's the part of spec jars > > Yes and we have our copyright notice on every page. > > > we can't replicate. Just because it's a secondary artifact doesn't > > change that - so I bet we should have the files in the javadoc jars. > > Well it just seems like rule-making gone mad and I bet if you went > looking thru' all the m2 generated javadoc jars in the ASF distro dirs > then none would have it. I would not personally veto a release due to this. However I do think we should have it there. The issue is not asserting our copyright (that is pretty obvious). It is assuring users that they are entitled to redistribute the files. *Because* the files are copyrighted, nobody is permitted to redistribute them *unless* a license explicitly grants them the right to do so. In theory, the developers at acme.example cannot ship the javadoc jars to their customers unless they can prove to the company lawyers that they have a license to do so. Pointing at a LICENSE.txt embedded in the jarfile is easy for them to do. Otherwise they would have to argue that the files are (a) ALL copyright ASF, and (b) that the ASF always licenses ALL its artifacts under the APL. I'm not sure that proving either of a or b would be easy. In practice, of course, few developers *tell* the company lawyers about this, and the ASF never sues so things tick over fine even though there is *legally* a problem. Regards, Simon --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org