Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-commons-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 18917 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2008 09:44:44 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 21 Jan 2008 09:44:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 63643 invoked by uid 500); 21 Jan 2008 09:44:32 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-commons-dev-archive@commons.apache.org Received: (qmail 63578 invoked by uid 500); 21 Jan 2008 09:44:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@commons.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@commons.apache.org Received: (qmail 63569 invoked by uid 99); 21 Jan 2008 09:44:32 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 01:44:32 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [213.46.255.22] (HELO viefep15-int.chello.at) (213.46.255.22) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 09:44:18 +0000 Received: from viefep15 ([127.0.0.1]) by viefep15-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20080121094410.YSLE23702.viefep15-int.chello.at@viefep15> for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:44:10 +0100 Message-ID: <25575274.1200908650939.JavaMail.root@viefep15> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:44:10 +0100 From: Simon Kitching To: Jakarta Commons Developers List Subject: Re: Support for OSGi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: from 62.116.38.218 by web-edge.chello.com; Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:44:10 +0100 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org ---- Torsten Curdt schrieb: > > On 21.01.2008, at 10:08, Tom Schindl wrote: > > > Hi Torsten, > > > > I understand this but we are seeing many J2EE-Servers adopting OSGi > > and many applications > > (I admit most of them in Eclipse-world) also. It seems strange to > > me in those envs to use this "artificial" > > package to overcome jar-hell (which is the only reason for the > > java5-package right?) they are not having > > because of OSGi. > > Hm.... not sure why its such a big deal to have e.g. > o.a.commons.lang2 or similar. If you use an IDE that manages imports > you will barely notice anyway. > > While it's great that OSGi adoption is getting better I still don't > believe it's something Commons should rely on. At least that's my > opinion. Agreed. OSGi = 10% of users (at most) other = 90% We cannot dump 90% of users into version-conflict hell in order to save 10% of users some effort when upgrading to the latest version. Yes, it would be nice if something like OSGi was universal, so packagename hacks like this were not necessary. But it just ain't so. Regards, Simon --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org