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From "Phil Steitz" <>
Subject [proposal] No VOTE needed to elect ASF committers to commons WAS: Re: request karma to commons validator/i18n
Date Fri, 06 Jul 2007 20:31:06 GMT
On 7/6/07, Henri Yandell <> wrote:
> On 7/6/07, Niall Pemberton <> wrote:
> > On 7/6/07, Paul Benedict <> wrote:
> > > I would like to commit to commons validator and commons i18n to enhance
> > > them for Struts. For validator, I want to add and finish some issues in
> > > the current snapshot, and, respectively, port some good i18n code from
> > > other Apache projects. Can I get karma for this?
> >
> > Although Commons has a liberal policy on giving Karma to ASF
> > committers a better (more ASF like) first step IMO would have been to
> > start talking about what you want to do first - a good recent example
> > of that is Dain:
> >
> >
> >
> > Even though I'm already a committer I still regularly create Jira
> > tickets and post patches (for code changes) to components that I don't
> > have much history on rather than diving straight in.  I'm hoping
> > you'll do the same, 'coz I'm going to be unhappy if I start seeing
> > Validator commits with no prior discussion.
> Ack - Martin just pointed out that it's Sandbox karma on request, not
> all of Commons.
> I'll adjust - ie: Paul will have commit for i18n, but we'll have to
> vote to give him commit to validator.

Sorry, I thought we had changed that policy, so I guess I would like
to propose that we change it now.  It does not really make sense to me
to distinguish the sandbox and I think we should make it as easy as
possible for existing ASF committers to contribute to commons.

So my proposal is that any ASF committer who wishes to become a
commons committer just needs to make that request here on the
commons-dev mailing list and they will granted karma for both commons
proper and commons sandbox.  Expectation is of course that ASF
committers joining the commons will "behave"

As an alternative, we could discuss requests for karma from ASF
committers on private@ (good sign that we have not even created that
yet :) but I don't personally see the need to do that.

In any case, I don't think we should revert to the old practice of
public committer votes (whether or not the individual is a current ASF


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