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From "Henri Yandell" <flame...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [all] Going TLP?
Date Wed, 02 May 2007 22:19:04 GMT
Jochen asked that too:

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-commons-dev/200704.mbox/%3ce75283b10704031231w7df2cabck21f07c99d37c20d0@mail.gmail.com%3e

My reply was:

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-commons-dev/200704.mbox/%3c31cc37360704031335u3586efdeub65591aa92d2c5d7@mail.gmail.com%3e

In terms of your direct questions, I don't think moving gives us
anything we don't have now in terms of being able to attract more
users/contributors, improve quality or to releasing components more
frequently. It would improve visibility a bit.

Hen

On 5/2/07, Emmanuel Bourg <ebourg@apache.org> wrote:
> Sorry for the dumb question, I may have missed an important thread, but
> what do we gain exactly by moving to a TLP ? What will be different ? I
> can see the external aspects like a new web site, new mailing lists and
> the loss of the Jakarta brand, but I doubt we are moving just for this.
> Will this new structure help us attract more users or more contributors,
> and how ? Will we release more components, more frequently ? Will this
> improve the quality and the visibility of the projects ?
>
> Thank you for enlightening me.
>
> Emmanuel Bourg
>
>
>
>
> Henri Yandell a écrit :
> > I think the end should be nigh for Jakarta (those on private@ will
> > have seen a thread in which I side-topic'd with the feeling that the
> > end should be nigh for Jakarta). Previously I've suggested that
> > Commons should flatten into Jakarta and that Jakarta should become a
> > general 'Java components' project; however there are some negatives to
> > that that I think are critical.
> >
> > Firstly, it leaves the future Jakarta with a lot of dead projects that
> > are going nowhere. That's not going to change in the short to medium
> > term, so it just becomes a millstone for the project's neck.
> >
> > Secondly, the Jakarta PMC will always remain a big group of people who
> > care about the brand name and the various legacies, rather than a
> > small focused PMC. I think this isn't desirable for any active
> > community that are a part of Jakarta currently - trying to have a PMC
> > that are acting as one community when not being one community doesn't
> > work.
> >
> > Thirdly, I think by being here we are helping to delay the inevitable
> > and keeping the old, broken umbrella going. Moving to TLP will help
> > things move along, and will provide a place for things to move to.
> >
> > So with that said - I'd like to propose that we move to commons.apache.org.
> >
> > Hen
> >
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