Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-commons-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 65797 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2006 22:28:06 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 26 Apr 2006 22:28:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 3267 invoked by uid 500); 26 Apr 2006 22:28:03 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-commons-dev-archive@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 2782 invoked by uid 500); 26 Apr 2006 22:28:01 -0000 Mailing-List: contact commons-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" Reply-To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 2764 invoked by uid 99); 26 Apr 2006 22:28:01 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:28:01 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: domain of sandymac@gmail.com designates 64.233.166.177 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.233.166.177] (HELO pproxy.gmail.com) (64.233.166.177) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:28:00 -0700 Received: by pproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t32so1726564pyc for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:27:40 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=aedebB1DvDC4lmTJ37MAT2t06oSjnGMUg5+/qTzE8CF/NEpJ5e4jGePu9kGaXSbLw0JuBkJZcemmjqKqnUDn6u5wR+ErhKGWx8jEVgMXGoGuYB1RPHHyq1zj0C+Limr0ridYN04F2/Ry3sQ0mh+kb3By/Gn1+4Zf8EsNmeDA2D8= Received: by 10.35.21.1 with SMTP id y1mr2312088pyi; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:27:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.34.16 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6bde122b0604261527y23c78cbayf9a1c20001d76bd8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:27:39 -0400 From: "Sandy McArthur" Sender: sandymac@gmail.com To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" Subject: Re: [all] Jira? In-Reply-To: <444F1013.1020509@ops.co.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <31cc37360604252145g1c82264amfc0a30ce6de59e94@mail.gmail.com> <444F1013.1020509@ops.co.at> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On 4/26/06, Mario Ivankovits wrote: > Hi! > > I know Jelly are on Jira already, and Struts have just moved over to > > Jira. Wondering what the view is nowadays on Commons moving to Jira? > > > I am -1 on moving to jira. > > I dont understand why we - the open source developers and our users - > should help testing a commercial application. > And given that even for a mid-size company the minimum required license > is the "professional" one - and its update policy - it is a rather > expensive thing. > > Also I dont understand whats the great benefit for us - compared to > bugzilla - that we act as a marketing plattform for jira. > > Sorry if I completely missed the point. Do not hesitate to correct me. > Ciao, > Mario It doesn't make sense to be this adverse to commercial software if you agree with the ASL. If you truly have a distaste for commercial software then the GPL is probably more fitting with your goals. +0 I'm not that familar with Jira so I won't take a strong position but I'm all for removing bariers from getting stuff done. If Jira lets people do more with less effort then I'm all for it. -- Sandy McArthur "He who dares not offend cannot be honest." - Thomas Paine --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: commons-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: commons-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org