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From "Phil Steitz" <>
Subject Re: [all] Proposal: Jakarta Language Components
Date Mon, 06 Mar 2006 18:59:38 GMT
On 3/6/06, Henri Yandell <> wrote:


> It might make things simpler to draw up an entire future re-org of
> Jakarta. See who gets dropped through the cracks and decide if we have
> to kill, accept or leave them to stand alone. There are some obvious
> ones for JWC, and some that just don't seem to fit and would have to
> stand alone.

I disagree there, and that is what actually led me to move to +1 for
Stephen's proposal, when I have consistently argued against breaking
j-c up in the past.  I think it is reasonable to attack the "problem"
(which, like some others I am not sure is as much a problem as some of
us think) of lack of organization by letting self-organizing ideas
like the one being discussed here move forward.  In other words,
instead of asking, "OK, so now how to we organize the rest of the
stuff?" we instead focus on getting JLC going and then keep an open
mind for the rest.  Maybe the remaining commons components continue
just fine for another several years.  Maybe the struts components move
over to struts and the JEE-ish things move into Geronimo or JWC really
happens and they mostly move there.  Maybe [math] finally gets a job
and leaves home.  And maybe none of this happens, or it happens slowly
and independently.  The key thing is to have it driven by people who
want to make it happen.

So who is going to make JWC happen :-)


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