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From "Martin Cooper" <>
Subject Re: [all] Proposal: Jakarta Language Components
Date Mon, 06 Mar 2006 19:10:08 GMT
On 3/6/06, Phil Steitz <> wrote:
> On 3/6/06, Henri Yandell <> wrote:
> <snip/>
> > It might make things simpler to draw up an entire future re-org of
> > Jakarta. See who gets dropped through the cracks and decide if we have
> > to kill, accept or leave them to stand alone. There are some obvious
> > ones for JWC, and some that just don't seem to fit and would have to
> > stand alone.
> I disagree there, and that is what actually led me to move to +1 for
> Stephen's proposal, when I have consistently argued against breaking
> j-c up in the past.  I think it is reasonable to attack the "problem"
> (which, like some others I am not sure is as much a problem as some of
> us think) of lack of organization by letting self-organizing ideas
> like the one being discussed here move forward.  In other words,
> instead of asking, "OK, so now how to we organize the rest of the
> stuff?" we instead focus on getting JLC going and then keep an open
> mind for the rest.  Maybe the remaining commons components continue
> just fine for another several years.  Maybe the struts components move
> over to struts and the JEE-ish things move into Geronimo or JWC really
> happens and they mostly move there.  Maybe [math] finally gets a job
> and leaves home.  And maybe none of this happens, or it happens slowly
> and independently.  The key thing is to have it driven by people who
> want to make it happen.

Nicely said. Exactly. Organic growth.

Martin Cooper

So who is going to make JWC happen :-)
> Phil
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