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From "Martin Cooper" <mart...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [feedparser] News / Status
Date Fri, 03 Mar 2006 02:50:25 GMT
On 3/2/06, Rahul Akolkar <rahul.akolkar@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 3/2/06, Simon Kitching <skitching@apache.org> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2006-03-02 at 17:50 -0500, Rahul Akolkar wrote:
> <snip/>
> > >
> > > Is that really the only reason? With [proxy] (and [scxml] as well),
> > > one of the glaring reasons I see is that they're still in sandbox. We
> > > *couldn't* release them right now, irrespective of how daunting the
> > > task of cutting a release may be. I'd say, its different.
> >
> > What you can't do is have binaries built from sandbox code then
> > distributed from the official Apache mirrors. And that seems right to
> > me; distribution from the official site(s) implies that the project has
> > passed Apache's tests for quality -- including having a community of
> > developers trusted by Apache to verify and maintain it.
> >
> <snap/>
>
> Yes, I'm aware, and completely agree.
>
>
> > The fact that the code is still in the sandbox implies that the project
> > has NOT passed those tests. It doesn't mean the code isn't good; it may
> > be brilliant. However if there isn't a community of existing apache
> > committers looking at the code, Apache doesn't *know* it's brilliant.
> >
> <snip/>
>
> ... sure, à la "see the light".
>
>
> > I believe that binaries can still be built from sandbox code and
> > distributed from your people.apache.org address, and that the sandbox
> > site can point to that location as a source of "unofficial" binaries.
> >
> <snap/>
>
> Even better, we have nightlies, thanks to Craig.
>
>
> > If SCXML is factored out of an existing project, then can't you get
> > half-a-dozen committers from that project to put themselves forward as
> > commons committers then call for the promotion of SCXML followed by a
> > release? Approval of existing committers from another Apache project
> > won't take long, as long as they really are serious about verifying and
> > maintaing SCXML.
> >
> <snip/>
>
> Half-a-dozen, such luxuries is Commons talk ;-) You probably need to
> have been recently active in Taglibs to know what I'm talking about.


<tongue-in-cheek>
So then nobody knows what you're talking about.
</tongue-in-cheek>

Sorry, couldn't resist. ;-)

--
Martin Cooper


In any case, based on the growing interest in [scxml] on the
> CommonsPeople wiki page [1], which currently shows atleast 5
> committers interested in [scxml] (in theory or more), I'm happy to
> give this more time. I probably naively believe that more of us will
> see its merit, and I plan on staying that way for a while ;-)
>
> -Rahul
>
> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/CommonsPeople
>
>
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Simon
> >
>
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