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From Henri Yandell <>
Subject Re: [vote][net] Release commons-net 1.4.1?
Date Sat, 03 Dec 2005 02:11:36 GMT
On 12/2/05, robert burrell donkin <> wrote:

> this culture needs to change: there are still too few people nominating
> new pmc'ers. IMHO it is an important part of the responsibility that
> comes with nominating someone as a committer that you will guide them
> through the first few weeks or months as a committer and (when they are
> ready) nominate them for the pmc.
> the progression from committers to pmc'er should be natural and
> relatively quick. definitely, all release managers should be pmc'ers.
> anyone who knows enough about apache to manage a release should be on
> the pmc.

It's the wrong list, ie) should be on general@, but I'm thinking that
we should just set in stone a date at which point a new committer is
listed on the pmc list and asked if they should be on the pmc (to the
person nominating them as committers).

So let's say Robert becomes a committer today. This would be noted in
a file. In 6->9 months time (ie when the chair does the report), any 6
month old committers would involve a question to the person nominating
them as committers as to why they shouldn't be nominated.

So culture change. One in which people are challenged to exclude, not
expected to remember to include.


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