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From Stephen Colebourne <scolebou...@btopenworld.com>
Subject RE: Java5izing commons/lang [all][lang]
Date Thu, 20 Oct 2005 12:40:32 GMT
Are there that many areas within [lang] that would
benefit from JDK1.5?

One of the key purposes of [lang] is providing JDK1.5
features to earlier JDKs.

Stephen



--- "Stuart, Ashwin" <ashwins@nds.com> wrote:
> > We have already had a similar discussion on
> JDK5-izing
> commons-collections.
> 
> Collections are quite special considering the
> introduction of generics
> to Java. But what about lang?
> 
> 
> > When it comes time, the existing classes/interface
> should be
> genericized, so that it has minimal impact on
> existing code if they want
> to use the new features when they switch to JDK5.
> 
> So, when will this be? What do the folks here think
> of this?
> 
> 
> On a more general note, that is the consensus (or
> the varied opinions)
> in the commons group about the possible reaction to
> Java5, considering
> the significance of the changes to the language.
> 
> Ashwin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Carman
> [mailto:james@carmanconsulting.com] 
> 
> 
> We have already had a similar discussion on
> JDK5-izing
> commons-collections.
> There's a project at sourceforge which has already
> done this, but I
> don't think we settled on a good way to move forward
> with that.  The
> code really should be hosted here at ASF IMHO, but I
> don't believe we
> came to a consensus as to how we were going to
> migrate it in.  We
> discussed having different projects, different
> branches, or putting the
> new "genericized"
> classes in different packages than their
> non-genericized counterparts.
> I really don't think we should introduce new
> packages for the new
> classes.
> When it comes time, the existing classes/interface
> should be
> genericized, so that it has minimal impact on
> existing code if they want
> to use the new features when they switch to JDK5.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stuart, Ashwin [mailto:ashwins@nds.com]
> 
> Hi Gary and others,
> 
> I get it. So the core lang package has to be usable
> by anyone who does
> not have all the nice features the later versions
> offer. Makes sense.
> That said, how about having extensions, at least for
> J5 considering the
> drasticness of its change, in which there will be an
> API catering to
> shortcomings one may find after using J5? Or, even
> enhancements that can
> be thought of to add value to J5. These extensions
> will be bundled
> separately (additional jars) targeting only relevant
> users.
> 
> I wonder if this has been discussed. I would like
> your opinion on this.
> 
> Ashwin 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
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