Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-commons-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 23466 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2005 04:26:05 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 15 Jun 2005 04:26:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 98489 invoked by uid 500); 15 Jun 2005 04:26:00 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-commons-dev-archive@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 98427 invoked by uid 500); 15 Jun 2005 04:26:00 -0000 Mailing-List: contact commons-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" Reply-To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 98380 invoked by uid 99); 15 Jun 2005 04:26:00 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from avmta3-rme.xtra.co.nz (HELO avmta3-rme.xtra.co.nz) (210.86.15.158) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:25:57 -0700 Received: from mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.240]) by avmta3-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050615042534.CGLP22141.avmta3-rme.xtra.co.nz@mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:25:34 +1200 Received: from [10.1.1.9] ([222.153.67.191]) by mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz with ESMTP id <20050615042533.DSHJ8463.mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz@[10.1.1.9]> for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:25:33 +1200 Subject: Re: [email] Someone on commons-email? From: Simon Kitching Reply-To: skitching@apache.org To: Jakarta Commons Developers List In-Reply-To: <42AEDA70.1060006@yahoo.com.br> References: <42AB1161.2030900@yahoo.com.br> <42ACFC75.2050709@spiegs.com> <42AD87A9.30704@yahoo.com.br> <1118700269.5084.14.camel@knossos.elmet> <42AEDA70.1060006@yahoo.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:26:34 +1200 Message-Id: <1118809594.3951.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 10:24 -0300, Ramiro Pereira de Magalhaes wrote: > Well, that's quite bad... :( > Isn't anyone with "managing powers" interested in "pushing email towards > a release"? I can checkout this project and start fixing anything by > myself as (if) needed but this way I'll be working alone and in a > "branch" that will probably be thrown away when the project start moving > again... Unfortunately it looks like no committer here has the spare time or interest in email to help you out. And unfortunately that includes me too. You are perfectly entitled to take a copy of the code and start a project on sourceforge (or elsewhere) as long as the license is complied with (the easiest way to do that is just continue to use the APL 2.0 license). If you do this, then I would be happy to see a note on the email project wiki pointing to the sourceforge branch. If the sourceforge fork is successful (builds a community of a few developers, has happy users) then there is every chance that the maintainers of that project (esp. you) might be invited to become commons committers and merge the code back in here -- if you wanted to. Or as you say you could just maintain a private copy. That's still an improvement over starting from nothing. It's always a shame to see a commons project die because the original committers went away when users actively want to become developers (not to mention bad for jakarta's reputation). But unfortunately it also takes some time and effort from existing commons committers to check that potential contributors are actually people we do want to give commit rights to and to allow to perform releases in Apache's name. And unlike some open-source projects, there aren't any people paid to work on commons AFAIK. Regards, Simon --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: commons-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: commons-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org