Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-commons-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 96733 invoked from network); 4 May 2005 17:41:25 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 4 May 2005 17:41:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 93352 invoked by uid 500); 4 May 2005 17:41:44 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-commons-dev-archive@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 93141 invoked by uid 500); 4 May 2005 17:41:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact commons-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" Reply-To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 93093 invoked by uid 99); 4 May 2005 17:41:33 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=10.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from torino.qos.ch (HELO mail.qos.ch) (212.74.184.209) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Wed, 04 May 2005 10:41:33 -0700 Received: from kal.qos.ch (kal [192.168.1.3]) by mail.qos.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67103D5888; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:39:13 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <6.0.3.0.0.20050504193500.01f52ca0@torino> X-Sender: blocked@torino (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.3.0 Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 19:39:15 +0200 To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" , Jakarta Commons Developers List From: Ceki =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=FClc=FC?= Subject: Re: [logging] tech.xml - child-first classloading not considered harmful In-Reply-To: <1115228277.4708.41.camel@knossos.elmet> References: <20050503145849.25209.qmail@web60323.mail.yahoo.com> <1115228277.4708.41.camel@knossos.elmet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Isn't the term child-first a misnomer? A class loader can't be a child of=20 itself? Can it? IMO, the term "parent-last" is an improvement over child-first,=20 "parent-second" being even a little more precise. At 19:37 5/4/2005, robert burrell donkin wrote: >On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 07:58 -0700, Mike Colbert wrote: > > > > > As an aside, isn't "child-first" really a misnomer and it's more like > > "parent-last"? Assuming the parent is at the top of the hierarchy,=20 > child-first > > implies (to me), that the heirarchy is walked downwardly from the=20 > parent, not > > upwardly from the bottom. > >oh, if only it were all so simple :) > >real life classloader hierarchies can (and regularly do) mix the two >types. so, it's really only possible to talk about the behaviour of a >single classloader. > >- robert --=20 Ceki G=FClc=FC The complete log4j manual: http://www.qos.ch/log4j/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: commons-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: commons-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org