Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-commons-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 40594 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2005 16:57:57 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 5 Apr 2005 16:57:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 7673 invoked by uid 500); 5 Apr 2005 16:57:49 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-commons-dev-archive@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 7574 invoked by uid 500); 5 Apr 2005 16:57:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact commons-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" Reply-To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 7534 invoked by uid 99); 5 Apr 2005 16:57:48 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=10.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from fire.nose.ch (HELO mail.nose.ch) (195.134.131.71) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 09:57:46 -0700 Received: (qmail 21243 invoked by uid 1010); 5 Apr 2005 18:57:43 +0200 Received: from 192.168.1.7 by chekov (envelope-from , uid 89) with qmail-scanner-1.24 (clamdscan: 0.80/585. spamassassin: 3.0.2. Clear:RC:1(192.168.1.7):. Processed in 0.033404 secs); 05 Apr 2005 16:57:43 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: ortwin.glueck@nose.ch via chekov X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.24 (Clear:RC:1(192.168.1.7):. Processed in 0.033404 secs) Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.7?) (192.168.1.7) by chekov.nose.ch with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 5 Apr 2005 18:57:43 +0200 Message-ID: <4252C386.7010507@nose.ch> Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 18:57:42 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ortwin_Gl=FCck?= Organization: NOSE Applied Intelligence User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jakarta Commons Developers List Subject: Re: [httpclient] Jars in the repository References: <08c601c539df$5a479ca0$6602a8c0@auburn> <42528D6E.1030600@nose.ch> <0a7b01c539f6$ae779de0$6602a8c0@auburn> <20050405162053.GA25189@xbox.localdomain> <4252BC06.1080703@nose.ch> <20050405163349.GA25214@xbox.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <20050405163349.GA25214@xbox.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Oleg Kalnichevski wrote: > Odi, > > I have not looked at the proposed solution, so I may be wrong here, but > I think it _should_ simply prepopulate the \lib from an > external repository (such as ibiblio). If it is indeed the case I > personally see no problem with removing dependencies from SVN. I will > not insist, though > > Oleg Yes, that's what it does. Maybe that I am missing something, but I have no idea what should be the benefit of that. 1. The libs are in the repo for a *reason*: availability and convenience. If you remove them we loose this availability and convenience. Replacing them with a stupid download script makes thinks worse, not better. 2. We don't need an additional Ant target to download deps. It duplicates knowledge from the project.xml. I don't want to maintain knowledge twice. This is error prone. Remember we had out-of-date docs regarding deps recently? Maven can download the deps that are listed in project.xml. Nobody needs Ant when there is Maven. Ant is legacy. You could write a Maven goal to generate the Ant script from the project.xml. But this is stupid as can be, isn't it? As I said, all we need is Maven, not Ant. 3. If anybody of ASF has a problem with the libs being in the repo, we can remove them today. Fine with me. There is no absolute need they are there. (If you though they need to be there because your IDE requires them in the project directory, you are wrong: Just look at Maven's eclipse goal.) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: commons-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: commons-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org