Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-commons-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 40378 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2005 08:16:40 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 25 Mar 2005 08:16:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 3588 invoked by uid 500); 25 Mar 2005 08:16:37 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-commons-dev-archive@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 3511 invoked by uid 500); 25 Mar 2005 08:16:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact commons-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" Reply-To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 3497 invoked by uid 99); 25 Mar 2005 08:16:36 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: domain of boris.unckel.mlg@gmx.net designates 213.165.64.20 as permitted sender) Received: from pop.gmx.net (HELO mail.gmx.net) (213.165.64.20) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with SMTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 00:16:34 -0800 Received: (qmail 32368 invoked by uid 0); 25 Mar 2005 08:16:31 -0000 Received: from 212.204.19.221 by www48.gmx.net with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:16:31 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:16:31 +0100 (MET) From: "Boris Unckel" To: commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Idea: combine JCL 2.0 and UGLI in Logging Services' CL2 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Authenticated: #143822 Message-ID: <27679.1111738591@www48.gmx.net> X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 1.6 (Global Message Exchange) X-Flags: 0001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Hello Remy, > As a personal note, I find this proposal completely out of place after > years of FUDing and dissing commons-logging in general, and anything > not log4j in particular. This is not the intention of Yoav. To quote the discussion[1] as summary. "This Get rid of the "we vs them" and create a "we" atmosphere." - Niclas Hedhman last mail in log4j-developers in that thread. Boris Thread started here: [1]http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=log4j-dev&m=111161809731599&w=2 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: commons-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: commons-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org