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From Rory Winston <>
Subject Re: Migrate to SVN?
Date Fri, 26 Nov 2004 11:25:55 GMT
I don't have any problems with moving to SVN, in fact I've been itching 
to use it for a while, since it's become relatively mature. The only 
things I am unsure about is the tool support - I find the advanced CVS 
support in Eclipse invaluable. However, I guess the more people that use 
SVN, the more momentum will go into other projects like that one. So 
here's a +1 from me.


Henri Yandell wrote:

>The problems I've hit are:
>No easy way to do 'cvs status -v project.xml' and list the tags that
>have been applied to a component. Instead I've switched to using an
>alias with:
>    svn list | grep $1 | sed 's/\/$//'
>Have to change the mindset for doing releases without a piece of work.
>Say [io] doesn't want to release the find sub-package. The way I'd
>normally do this in CVS is to check it out; remove the find package
>and do a cvs tag. With SVN I think I would tag the whole thing; then
>check the tag out and treat it like a branch, removing files from it
>to get the right thing.
>I'm not sure if this is any worse; might just be a mental change.
>URLs. Definitely more of a pain to come up with the two long urls to
>tag with etc :) I wonder how well the IDE plugins do with this. How do
>you train them to understand your tag/branch/release strategy.
>Tagging multiple entities. With maven (or ant I guess), when using a
>shared super-build file (ie commons-build/project.xml), you should tag
>both your component and the super-build file. In Commons we've got
>around this by only using the super-build file for site generation,
>but I've a project where I use it for building too.
>To tag the right files, I have to create a new directory in releases/,
>commit that into svn, then svn copy various things into it. A little
>bit of a pain, more so if you screw up and do an update in releases/
>Overall though I've adapted and am dealing with it. My only worries
>with SVN are the pains the berkeley db has given me, including some
>bug in viewcvs which corrupted the svn repo to the extent that the
>rescue scripts failed and whether IDE plugins will be good enough
>whenever I can afford a powerful enough laptop :)
>The only one that would affect the ASF for other people I think is
>whether their current method of using CVS is supported in SVN and how
>loudly they want to cry if it isn't.
>On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 12:44:21 -0800, Martin Cooper <> wrote:
>>On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 15:37:42 -0500, Henri Yandell <> wrote:
>>>The more painful tagging in svn is made up for by the advantages of
>>>svn, so I'm happy to embrace it.
>>Hmm, I actually found tagging and branching in SVN just as easy as in CVS. Just:
>>svn copy URL1 URL2
>>A doddle, as you might say. ;-)
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