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From Henri Yandell <flame...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Promote Email to Commons Proper
Date Mon, 15 Nov 2004 22:22:38 GMT
http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/Using_20LGPL_27d_20code


On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 17:16:35 -0500, Henri Yandell <flamefew@gmail.com> wrote:
> Damn, I need to Wiki this :)
> 
> Basically, LGPL is a license written for the C programming language.
> While we all agree that its intent is to allow people to freely use
> the library, its wording means that the actual application to a
> language other than C is up for debate. A lot of this comes down to
> whether the term 'linking' means 'import' in Java or not. Early vs
> Late linking languages etc.
> 
> Anyways, legal advice given to the ASF is not to be tied to an LGPL
> license as the LGPL is feasibly as viral as GPL. This isn't just some
> not-invented-here view the ASF have. Lawrence Rosen's latest book on
> open-source licensing seems to repeat the view. This means we cannot
> have LGPL'd jars in the CVS repository, that we cannot modify
> previously LGPL'd code and that we cannot import LGPL'd code in our
> import statements.
> 
> The same applies for GPL (to answer Joe's question that yes, GPL is worse).
> 
> I'm hoping that as the months go by next year we'll be able to import
> LGPL'd code in our code. GPL will still be out of the question, as
> would LGPL in CVS or modifying LGPL; but use of JFreeCharts, Hibernate
> and other libraries would be possible.
> 
> So, yep. Dumbster's license seems to be a problem. One path is to
> explain this to the author and ask if they can dual-license it under
> something like BSD or ASL 2.0.
> 
> Hen
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 23:04:11 +0100, Mark Lowe <melowe@gmail.com> wrote:
> > A little bit of a digression but I'm reading through the LGPL blurb..
> >
> > Can you give a bit more detail on this problem? Just as a matter or curiosity.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 21:00:16 +0000, robert burrell donkin
> > <robertburrelldonkin@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> > > On 15 Nov 2004, at 11:10, Eric Pugh wrote:
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > > (2) DEENDENCIES
> >
> >
> > > >
> > > > The Email component is dependent upon the following external
> > > > components for development and use:
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > >     * Dumbster Fake SMTP (Version 1.0.3 or later) - for unit tests
> > > > only, not
> > > > required for deployment
> > >
> > > i hate to do this to what is a good proposal but...
> > >
> > > isn't dumbster LGPL'd...?
> > >
> > > BaseEmailTestCase imports LGPL'd code and IIRC that's still
> > > problematic. (FSF refuse to clarify the situation with regard to java.)
> > >
> > > - robert
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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