Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-commons-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 3587 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2004 16:23:50 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 7 Oct 2004 16:23:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 90027 invoked by uid 500); 7 Oct 2004 16:23:37 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-commons-dev-archive@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 89935 invoked by uid 500); 7 Oct 2004 16:23:36 -0000 Mailing-List: contact commons-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" Reply-To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 89838 invoked by uid 99); 7 Oct 2004 16:23:35 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_BY_IP,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: domain of flamefew@gmail.com designates 64.233.170.203 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.233.170.203] (HELO mproxy.gmail.com) (64.233.170.203) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Thu, 07 Oct 2004 09:23:34 -0700 Received: by mproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 79so626348rnl for ; Thu, 07 Oct 2004 09:23:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.73.63 with SMTP id v63mr1728369rna; Thu, 07 Oct 2004 09:23:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.164.53 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Oct 2004 09:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <31cc373604100709237011dc28@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 12:23:22 -0400 From: Henri Yandell Reply-To: Henri Yandell To: Jakarta Commons Developers List Subject: Re: Licensing In-Reply-To: <41655078.8020008@lfjr.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <41647439.9020905@lfjr.net> <41651D58.7080501@btinternet.com> <416524DC.4090505@lfjr.net> <31cc37360410070657697410f9@mail.gmail.com> <41655078.8020008@lfjr.net> X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 16:19:36 +0200, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > Henri Yandell wrote: > > > Now we're onto the IANAL stuff and ponderings on how to get such > > suggestions to a lawyer without it turning into an expensive 2 week > > Q&A. Can Promissory Estoppel (whatever that is) be given just on a > > website etc. > > > > For example, I'd love to see an ASF lawyer come up with a concise > > 'footnote' to the LGPL that we could ask Java LGPL users to add to > > their licences. Or just a 'promissory estoppel' that could be placed > > there. > > That's a good idea, how do we contact the ASF lawyers ? With difficulty. Eavesdropping on the board list, they are working on ways to get a better line of communication to the legal team (and getting a more defined legal team). There are some number of pro-bono hours per month, but these are easy to use up I think. My plan for this issue is: 1) Identify the current situation to get away from the "Can I use project X which is under LGPL" questions. See http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/LicenceIssues. 2) Ensure the Jakarta cvs repository is clean in regards to said issues. 3) Collate ideas for work-arounds. Plugin-architecture; footnotes to LGPL etc. 4) Any work-arounds that seem good would then be put on a request for the board to consider. Hen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: commons-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: commons-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org