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From Henri Yandell <flame...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [general] Do we need to support Ant based builds?
Date Mon, 20 Sep 2004 22:08:15 GMT
On the nightly stuff;

I think Gump can do Maven builds now, rather than the ant scripts, and
if not, I've got a (probably quite similar to Craig's) build system
set of scripts for Maven that we could use.

Hen

On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 13:44:54 -0700, Martin Cooper <mfncooper@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 12:11:22 -0400, Shapira, Yoav <yoav.shapira@mpi.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > It should be a project-by-project decision.
> 
> That would be ideal, IMO, but I don't think it's what you mean. ;-) I
> think you mean component by component. It would be nice if we could
> say that the entire Jakarta project uses a unified build system, but I
> doubt that'll ever happen. ;-)
> 
> --
> Martin Cooper
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > If someone wants to dump
> > Ant and require Maven for building, or vice versa, it's their decision.
> > So for Configuration, you and the other active developers should decide.
> >
> > I personally use Ant and don't like Maven too much.  I think the Ant
> > user base is wider than the Maven one based on how long the two have
> > been available.  Ant's the closest thing there is to a de-facto building
> > standard in the Java world pretty much.  So if a project decides to
> > require Maven and not support Ant for building, I think you'd limit your
> > user base.  But as I said, that's a decision for the project's
> > developers to make.
> >
> > I wouldn't like Commons to require Maven for all the Commons projects
> > for the above reasons.
> >
> > As an aside, I thought Maven was capable of generating an Ant build
> > file?  Is that buggy or something?
> >
> > Yoav Shapira
> > Millennium Research Informatics
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Eric Pugh [mailto:epugh@upstate.com]
> > >Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 11:42 AM
> > >To: Commons-Dev
> > >Subject: [general] Do we need to support Ant based builds?
> > >
> > >Subject says it all.  For configuration we use Maven to perform the
> > build..
> > >And frequently we get questions from people using the Ant based build,
> > >which
> > >we seem to be pathologically incapable of keeping up to date...
> > >
> > >I am trying to go come up with solutions like:
> > >1) Rebuild the ant build.xml as part of the normal build process
> > >2) Do funky logic to detect if the ant build.xml is out of date w/ the
> > >maven
> > >process
> > >
> > >However, if we could just say "use Maven" then things would be much
> > >simpler.
> > >While I don't want to come across as a Maven zealot or providing bad
> > >customer service to all the Ant users, having the two build systems
> > leads
> > >to
> > >lots of problems for Ant users...
> > >
> > >Eric Pugh
> > >
> > >
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