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From "Mark R. Diggory" <>
Subject Re: [all] Math needs a "user" & a "dev" email list.
Date Sun, 15 Aug 2004 01:01:22 GMT
This is the type of discussion I'm referring too. Here is a perfect 
example of why commons components would benefit from separate "users" 
lists. Users are not interested in the same discussion issues as 
developers, the commons users list is ill adapted to the cross 
pollination "developer" paradigm. Commons Users wish to discuss issues 
related specifically to the component they are using while Commons 
developers wish to maintain maximum interaction with other Commons 
components to optimize code reuse and experience.

Lets be clear here. I do not want to see math "development" issues occur 
on a list separate from the other components. I do not want to see any 
Commons Component start is own "dev list". Nor do I want to see math 
separate from the commons. I want to see math user issues on a separate 
list, in fact I think any Commons project should have the option to 
produce their own users list as a means to provide user support for the 
component independent of the other components.

What I'm talking about is "User Support", which should be of great 
importance to the community, as important as developer interaction.

After a great deal of discussion, maybe this subject should be voted on 
to bring the subject to completion. Otherwise, it will just get more heated.


Kim van der Linde wrote:

>--- Martin Cooper <> wrote:
>>It seems that you are missing the single most
>>important facet of Jakarta Commons here - community.
>>Commons is one community, 
>A community from whom? Whom are in it? Only hard-core
>developers? Or the developers and users at large?
>Apparently, I have a different idea about e-mail lists
>than most here. So be it.
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Mark R. Diggory
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