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From Henri Yandell <>
Subject RE: [sandbox] active components?
Date Sat, 15 May 2004 15:29:13 GMT

This definitely sounds like a worry.

Our site has informally released the snapshot versions as (effectively) an
alpha release. Is Spring dependent on these versions too?

Documentation looks good. Do you have a roadmap for finishing that?

What future does Attributes have with the 1.5 Annotations? Do they replace
it, or is it still viable then? [I suspect that is FAQ-worthy].

Do you need any help anywhere?

On the subject of community, I think you've got the right answer. For a
smaller number of active developers, documentation needs to take up any
slack. I don't think the active developer size should stop us from
recognising the reality that a release is needed.


On Sat, 15 May 2004, Leo Sutic wrote:

> > From: Henri Yandell []
> >
> > I'm interested in finding out which parts of sandbox are not
> > active and which would be worth putting time into getting a
> > release done.
> >
> > Currently on the Commons site we list these as the active
> > components, which are actually active and where are they release wise?
> >
> > attributes
> Attributes is active. Release-wise its in a bit of a bind - I
> know that it is used by people - for example in the Spring Framework
> ( If each downloader of Spring can be
> considered a user, then attributes has over 10,000 users. Of course
> this statistic is 50-75% made up, but I'd be surprised if it
> has less than ten users.
> However, this has not resulted in a community of *developers*,
> making attributes one of those projects that don't quite
> live up to the Apache standards. There's me, but that's
> all.
> In defense of this state, it appears that attributes does
> pretty much everything people want it to do, and so there is
> little reason for anyone to dive in.
> Relase-wise I'm now focusing on writing documentation,
> not putting new features in.
> A release would be great, especially for the spring people,
> but I don't know if it is possible due to the lack of developers.
> /LS
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