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From "Stephen Colebourne" <scolebou...@btopenworld.com>
Subject Re: [all] [VFS] Where are the committers?
Date Thu, 01 Apr 2004 20:24:44 GMT
We have quoted this line for some time, however I am unclear as to where it
comes from. The commons charter does not rule out adding committers to work
in the sandbox as far as I can see. A low bar of entry seems like a positive
to me.

IMHO we can't afford to be this strict can we? It certainly leads to a not
invented here attitude and the loss of good codebases. The line to draw
should be that new committers cannot create new sandbox projects (that way
leads to SF) but can join an existing dormant sandbox project.

Stephen

From: "robert burrell donkin" <robertburrelldonkin@blueyonder.co.uk>
> hi michael
>
> (please take this in the positive way in which it's intended.)
>
> i'm very sad to say that the jakarta commons rules don't really allow
> new committers to be nominated for sandbox components: existing apache
> committers will be granted karma upon request but new committers should
> only be elected for work on existing components.
>
> the jakarta commons team runs the sandbox on behalf of the jakarta pmc
> and the rules are theirs (not ours). so one option would be to repeat
> this request (or ask for an existing ASF committer to volunteer) on
> jakarta general.
>
> the sandbox is a public place where existing apache committers can
> experiment. some experiment gather momentum and gain promotion either
> to the commons proper or elsewhere. in other cases the committers loose
> interest and the component languishes.
>
> if vfs has good code but has lost it's community of developers then
> there are various options. hopefully an existing committer might
> volunteer to restart VFS development. with a healthy community,
> development and promotion could be reasonably quick.
>
> but if this doesn't happen then the VFS community might consider
> starting to work on an enhanced version over at sourceforge. you would
> still be very welcome to continue to use this list for communication
> but you would have the freedom to develop and nominate committers
> without the rules we need here at apache. if you choose the AL2.0
> license then there's every possibility that the project could be
> reunified one day.
>
> - robert
>
> On 1 Apr 2004, at 09:21, Michael Davey wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > It looks as though the committers for VFS are currently busy working on
> > other projects.  I would like to propose that a vote is held to admit
> > Mario Ivankovits as a Commons-Sandbox committer.
> >
> > Mario has been active on the developer list for over a year and has
> > submitted patches for FTP and VFS.  More recently, Mario has spent
> > some time setting up a test server for VFS.
> >
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org/
> > msg38267.html
> > http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27776
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org/
> > msg38413.html
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org/
> > msg38412.html
> >
> > There has been increasing interest in the VFS project over the last few
> > months, and it needs someone to be focusing on it. Mario has expressed
> > an
> > interest in moving VFS forward and, I believe, is ready.
> >
> > However, I am not a committer myself, so is there anyone who would be
> > willing to sponsor this proposal and send out the appropriate "VOTE"
> > email?
> >
> > --
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
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