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From "Stephen Colebourne" <>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] End Gump builds for sandbox projects
Date Wed, 03 Mar 2004 23:26:17 GMT
I found this description of Gump and future aims quite interesting. So I'll
withdraw this proposal.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam R. B. Jack" <>
> > This is a proposal to begin to end the abuse of the sandbox. (The
> > was intended as a temporary 'play area' for new ideas, not a long term
> > project home)
> This is a fascinating approach, and not unlike something that drove me
> towards Gump in the first place. I was a heavy user of a common (sandbox)
> project that after a lot of (user) investment on my part went badly
> stagnant. I felt pretty mift, and wished I had some metrics (or similar)
> help me make my choices of dependencies in the first place.
> I turned to Gump to attempt to determine which projects were healthy
> (stagnant isn't a bad thing for a feature rich, stable product, with a
> stable stack below it) and which weren't. I feel it is only 'open' to give
> an assessment of a project's status, and what better way that the
> 'googlesque' (I'm sure it is a word waiting to enter the dictionary ;-)
> approach of letting community usage/satisfaction do the talking. Increase
> the rating of a project by using it, depending on it. Decrease it by
> away (as I did) breaking dependency.
> Here Gump attempts to 'rate' a project by 'FOG Factor' (eventually
> mystical, a combination of all, but right now a ratio of successes verse
> failures, including those of the dependency stack)  :
> This is by 'count of dependees' (how many projects depend on the project):
> This is by last updated (on the module) - yup, sadly bogus for commons, I
> know. :(
> Gump is far from done, we'll work with folks to create new views/new
> but it is amasing valuable (albethem statistical) insights into projects
> a daily basis.
> As such - please do NOT remove these things from Gump, please help us use
> Gump to publically determine the wheat from the chaff, whilst you apply
> or peer means to clean house of projects that have failed to achieve mass.
> Gump might be in a position (especially with help of users like you
> solutions) to help you determine what course of action to take for each
> component...

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