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From: Gary Gregory <ggregory@seagullsw.com>
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"Saying Jakarta => Java"

Yep, that is what I meant.

Gary

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Cooper [mailto:martinc@apache.org]
> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 16:33
> To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> Subject: RE: What is Jakarta Commons?
> 
> On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Gary Gregory wrote:
> 
> > > Jakarta is, and IMO should remain, a Java only project.  This is not
> > > SourceForge.
> >
> > Yes, please, Jakarta == Java. This makes Jakarta one place to go for all
> > things Java that are not TLP (like Ant).
> 
> You mean for all things Java that are not TLP or inside another umbrella
> TLP, right? Don't forget that you still have to look inside various other
> TLPs to find things like Xerces and Xalan (XML), Lenya (Cocoon) or SOAP
> (Web Services).
> 
> Saying Jakarta => Java is one thing, but trying to say Java => Jakarta
> isn't going to go very far.
> 
> --
> Martin Cooper
> 
> 
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: David Graham [mailto:grahamdavid1980@yahoo.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 14:44
> > > To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> > > Subject: Re: What is Jakarta Commons?
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Stephen Colebourne <scolebourne@btopenworld.com> wrote:
> > > > From: "Rodney Waldhoff" <rwaldhoff@apache.org>
> > > > > "The subproject shall create and maintain packages written in the
> Java
> > > > > language, intended for use in server-related development, and
> designed
> > > > to
> > > > > be used independently of any larger product or framework."
> > > > >
> > > > > in what way is anything in j-c "specifically different" from that
> > > > > statement?
> > > > The "intended for use in server-related development" is not
> something I
> > > > believe we should have any more. It creates an artificial limit
> which we
> > > > don't need. The "written in the Java language" is also perhaps
> slightly
> > > > too
> > > > tight, as we shouldn't exclude [daemon].
> > >
> > > Jakarta is, and IMO should remain, a Java only project.  This is not
> > > SourceForge.
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Less importantly, the name 'package' is confusing, and component or
> > > > product
> > > > might make more sense.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not proposing radical change, just a tidying up of the charter,
> > > > especially to eliminate the parts that are clearly wrong. References
> to
> > > > "sponsoring subproject" and "catalog packages and other resources"
> are
> > > > especially inaccurate.
> > > >
> > > > Stephen
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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