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From David Graham <grahamdavid1...@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: What is Jakarta Commons?
Date Tue, 23 Dec 2003 18:17:20 GMT

--- "Craig R. McClanahan" <craigmcc@apache.org> wrote:
> Quoting David Graham <grahamdavid1980@yahoo.com>:
> 
> > 
> > --- Stephen Colebourne <scolebourne@btopenworld.com> wrote:
> > > From: "Rodney Waldhoff" <rwaldhoff@apache.org>
> > > > "The subproject shall create and maintain packages written in the
> Java
> > > > language, intended for use in server-related development, and
> designed
> > > to
> > > > be used independently of any larger product or framework."
> > > >
> > > > in what way is anything in j-c "specifically different" from that
> > > > statement?
> > > The "intended for use in server-related development" is not
> something I
> > > believe we should have any more. It creates an artificial limit
> which we
> > > don't need. The "written in the Java language" is also perhaps
> slightly
> > > too
> > > tight, as we shouldn't exclude [daemon].
> > 
> > Jakarta is, and IMO should remain, a Java only project.  This is not
> > SourceForge.
> > 
> 
> The challenge is, of course, that Jakarta doesn't contain (and never
> did) all of
> the "written in the Java language" software at Apache.  Even before
> subprojects
> like Ant, James, and Maven graduated to TLPs, there was the Java code in
> all
> the xml.apache.org project (including Cocoon early on, but that's also
> graduated).  

That's not how I intended my comments to be taken.  I would like Jakarta
to keep its Java focus but I never meant that all Apache Java projects
should be hosted by Jakarta.

David

> 
> Is someone who comes to the Jakarta home page going to find out they can
> download, say, an SVG viewer that is written in Java (Batik)?
> 
> I would agree that a web presence that let people identify all the
> Java-based
> projects (or a search capability that lets you specify implementation
> language
> as a criteria) would be a very useful feature.  I don't believe that
> such a web
> presence needs to correspond to the legal organization of the projects
> themselves within Apache (although that should, of course, be visible by
> some
> means as well for those that are interested).
> 
> > David
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
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