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From Rodney Waldhoff <>
Subject Re: What is Jakarta Commons?
Date Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:37:13 GMT
I don't follow.

The current Jakarta Commons charter reads (under "scope of the

"The subproject shall create and maintain packages written in the Java
language, intended for use in server-related development, and designed to
be used independently of any larger product or framework."

in what way is anything in j-c "specifically different" from that

On Sat, 20 Dec 2003, Stephen Colebourne wrote:

> Jakarta is having trouble redefining what is truly stands for. I had hoped
> that in Jakarta-Commons we knew. However, since its specifically different
> to what is in the charter, I guess we should decide. And then update the
> charter.
> >From the websites:
> 'small scale, reusable, code components that are useful in multiple Jakarta
> subprojects'
> 'focused on all aspects of reusable Java components'
> 'creating and maintaining reusable Java components'
> 'collaboration and sharing, where developers from throughout the Jakarta
> community can work together on projects to be shared by the Jakarta projects
> and Jakarta users'
> There are other practical ways to define it. Each J-C component has
> insufficient community on its own to survive at Apache, either as an
> independent TLP or within another TLP. Yet within J-C the component is
> supported and watched over. For example, one way to view this is by mailing
> lists. If each commons component had its own mailing list, then most would
> be very quiet. Not enough to stand alone.
> My preferred short definition of J-C is:
> 'creating and maintaining small-scale, reusable, utility components written
> in Java'
> Is this definition OK? Any comments?
> Stephen
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