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From "Craig R. McClanahan" <craig...@apache.org>
Subject Re: What is Jakarta Commons?
Date Tue, 23 Dec 2003 18:28:26 GMT
Quoting David Graham <grahamdavid1980@yahoo.com>:

> 
> --- "Craig R. McClanahan" <craigmcc@apache.org> wrote:
> > Quoting David Graham <grahamdavid1980@yahoo.com>:
> > 
> > > 
> > > --- Stephen Colebourne <scolebourne@btopenworld.com> wrote:
> > > > From: "Rodney Waldhoff" <rwaldhoff@apache.org>
> > > > > "The subproject shall create and maintain packages written in the
> > Java
> > > > > language, intended for use in server-related development, and
> > designed
> > > > to
> > > > > be used independently of any larger product or framework."
> > > > >
> > > > > in what way is anything in j-c "specifically different" from that
> > > > > statement?
> > > > The "intended for use in server-related development" is not
> > something I
> > > > believe we should have any more. It creates an artificial limit
> > which we
> > > > don't need. The "written in the Java language" is also perhaps
> > slightly
> > > > too
> > > > tight, as we shouldn't exclude [daemon].
> > > 
> > > Jakarta is, and IMO should remain, a Java only project.  This is not
> > > SourceForge.
> > > 
> > 
> > The challenge is, of course, that Jakarta doesn't contain (and never
> > did) all of
> > the "written in the Java language" software at Apache.  Even before
> > subprojects
> > like Ant, James, and Maven graduated to TLPs, there was the Java code in
> > all
> > the xml.apache.org project (including Cocoon early on, but that's also
> > graduated).  
> 
> That's not how I intended my comments to be taken.  I would like Jakarta
> to keep its Java focus but I never meant that all Apache Java projects
> should be hosted by Jakarta.
> 

But I'm concerned that that's what outside people are likely to *assume* it
means, even though we all know better.  In other words, they're going to think
it means "ALL things java@apache" instead of "SOME things java@apache".

> David
> 

Craig


> > 
> > Is someone who comes to the Jakarta home page going to find out they can
> > download, say, an SVG viewer that is written in Java (Batik)?
> > 
> > I would agree that a web presence that let people identify all the
> > Java-based
> > projects (or a search capability that lets you specify implementation
> > language
> > as a criteria) would be a very useful feature.  I don't believe that
> > such a web
> > presence needs to correspond to the legal organization of the projects
> > themselves within Apache (although that should, of course, be visible by
> > some
> > means as well for those that are interested).
> > 
> > > David
> > 
> > Craig
> > 
> > 
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