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From: robert burrell donkin <robertburrelldonkin@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [ANN][hivemind] hivemind has been temporarily taken offline
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:46:12 +0000
To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" <commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org>

On 7 Nov 2003, at 16:05, Harish Krishnaswamy wrote:

> Hi Danny,
>
> I don't deny the recommedation that the PMC should be notified of 
> situations such as this although I don't know why the PMC list is 
> private.

it's private so that the pmc has a confidential forum for discussions. 
(general is the right forum for pmc discussions that are not 
confidential.) in this case, howard's a pmc member so he has karma and 
can participate. the pmc can grant subscription karma for non-members 
if they need arises to talk to someone (who isn't a pmc member) 
confidentially.

we've probably gone too far in the direction of making everything 
private. (that's why general has probably been far too quite 
recently...) but in this case, it seems entirely proper for the 
discussions with howard to take place in confidence on the pmc list.

> But it seems like all this confusion is due to the lack of proper 
> protocols defined in a public place that people can follow, or have I 
> not looked around well enough. May be this is the first such situation 
> and something may spring out of here, I don't know.

you're probably right that this sort of stuff isn't very well 
documented. we probably need to find time to put some pages up.

- robert


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