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Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] emeritus committers?
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:49:31 -0500
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Thread-Topic: [PROPOSAL] emeritus committers?
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From: "Shapira, Yoav" <Yoav.Shapira@mpi.com>
To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" <commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org>


Howdy,
Actually, I'm curious to know how you obtained this list: some script
with mixed CVS commands?  I'd like to come up with similar lists for
other modules where I'm a committer.  I *know* for example that tomcat=

hasn't had more than 10 active committers during the past year even
though there are 64 on the page you cited.

Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Shapira, Yoav
>Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 12:48 PM
>To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
>Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] emeritus committers?
>
>
>Howdy,
>+1, and it seems like the final list was already in Senor Waldhoff's
>original email...
>
>Yoav Shapira
>Millennium ChemInformatics
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: David Graham [mailto:grahamdavid1980@yahoo.com]
>>Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 12:43 PM
>>To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
>>Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] emeritus committers?
>>
>>+1 though I suspect determining the final list to remove will take a=

>>while.
>>
>>David
>>
>>--- Rodney Waldhoff <rwaldhoff@apache.org> wrote:
>>> There is a perception in some circles that Jakarta as a whole, and=

>>> Jakarta
>>> Commons in particular, is too large for sufficient PMC oversight.
>In
>>> my
>>> opinion, particularly with respect to Jakarta Commons, this is not=

>the
>>> case, but one way to combat that perception is to recognize that
>>> although
>>> the CVS avail file lists 72 committers for the jakarta-commons
>>> repository
>>> (see
>http://cvs.apache.org/~rwaldhoff/jakarta/jakarta-committers.html),
>>> not all of those folks are actively working in Jakarta Commons
>anymore.
>>> Removing inactive committers from the avail file (and naming them
>>> emeritus
>>> committers) is one way to recognize that fact.
>>>
>>> The jakarta guidelines state "At times, Committers may go inactive=

>for a
>>> variety of reasons. A Committer that has been inactive for 6 month=
s
>or
>>> more may lose their status as a Committer. Getting access back is =
as
>>> simple as re-requesting it on the project's Developer mailing list=
."
>>> <http://jakarta.apache.org/site/roles.html>
>>>
>>> The following 16 folks are listed in the CVS avail file, but have
not
>>> made
>>> any commits in the past year (since 13 Nov 2002):
>>>
>>> amamment - Arun Mammen Thomas
>>> arron - Arron Bates
>>> conor - Conor MacNeill
>>> dsale - Doug Sale
>>> dwinterfeldt - David Winterfeldt
>>> hammant - Paul Hammant
>>> husted - Ted Husted
>>> jariw - jariw AT hyperlink-interactive DOT co DOT uk
>>> jefft - Jeff Turner
>>> marcsaeg - Marc Saegesser
>>> mas - Michael Smith
>>> nacho - Ignacio J. Ortega
>>> noel - Noel J. Bergman
>>> paulo - Paulo Gaspar
>>> serge - Serge Knystautas
>>> vmassol - Vincent Massol
>>>
>>> It may be that some of these folks have been "active" in non-CVS
>ways,
>>> for
>>> instance, by posting to the commons-user or commons-dev lists, I
>haven't
>>> checked (nor am I exactly sure how I could programmaticly check
>that).
>>>
>>> Removing those 16 would reduce the number of active committers to
56,
>a
>>> more that 20% reduction in the perceived size of jakarta-commons (=
by
>>> that
>>> metric at least).
>>>
>>> Just to clarify, I have no issues with any or all of those folks
>>> maintaining access to the jakarta-commons CVS module, nor is this
>some
>>> sort of judgment of a lack of activity (indeed there are a number =
of
>>> folks
>>> on that list that I have a lot of respect for).  Rather, this is a=

>>> recognition that those folks have moved on for the time being and =
an
>>> attempt to make the perceived size of Jakarta Commons more
accurately
>>> reflect the reality of the matter.  As the guidelines state, a
simple
>>> post
>>> to commons-dev would be all that is needed to restore direct CVS
>access
>>> and reverse the inactive status.
>>>
>>> The Proposal:
>>>
>>> Unless anyone on that list wants to declare themselves "active"
right
>>> now
>>> (or someone else can vouch for some sort of commons related activi=
ty
>in
>>> the past year or so), let's invoke that paragraph of the jakarta
>>> guidelines and declare these folks "inactive" committers.
>Specifically,
>>> let's:
>>>
>>> (1) remove those folks from the avail file and
>>>
>>> (2) add an "emeritus committers" page (or section of some existing=

>page)
>>> to the jakarta-commons website that acknowledges their contributio=
ns
>and
>>> indicates the mechanism by which they can once again get CVS acces=
s.
>>>
>>> --
>>> - Rod <http://radio.weblogs.com/0122027/>
>>>
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