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From "Shapira, Yoav" <>
Subject RE: [PROPOSAL] emeritus committers?
Date Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:47:50 GMT

+1, and it seems like the final list was already in Senor Waldhoff's
original email...

Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics

>-----Original Message-----
>From: David Graham []
>Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 12:43 PM
>To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
>Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] emeritus committers?
>+1 though I suspect determining the final list to remove will take a
>--- Rodney Waldhoff <> wrote:
>> There is a perception in some circles that Jakarta as a whole, and
>> Jakarta
>> Commons in particular, is too large for sufficient PMC oversight.
>> my
>> opinion, particularly with respect to Jakarta Commons, this is not
>> case, but one way to combat that perception is to recognize that
>> although
>> the CVS avail file lists 72 committers for the jakarta-commons
>> repository
>> (see,
>> not all of those folks are actively working in Jakarta Commons
>> Removing inactive committers from the avail file (and naming them
>> emeritus
>> committers) is one way to recognize that fact.
>> The jakarta guidelines state "At times, Committers may go inactive
for a
>> variety of reasons. A Committer that has been inactive for 6 months
>> more may lose their status as a Committer. Getting access back is as
>> simple as re-requesting it on the project's Developer mailing list."
>> <>
>> The following 16 folks are listed in the CVS avail file, but have not
>> made
>> any commits in the past year (since 13 Nov 2002):
>> amamment - Arun Mammen Thomas
>> arron - Arron Bates
>> conor - Conor MacNeill
>> dsale - Doug Sale
>> dwinterfeldt - David Winterfeldt
>> hammant - Paul Hammant
>> husted - Ted Husted
>> jariw - jariw AT hyperlink-interactive DOT co DOT uk
>> jefft - Jeff Turner
>> marcsaeg - Marc Saegesser
>> mas - Michael Smith
>> nacho - Ignacio J. Ortega
>> noel - Noel J. Bergman
>> paulo - Paulo Gaspar
>> serge - Serge Knystautas
>> vmassol - Vincent Massol
>> It may be that some of these folks have been "active" in non-CVS
>> for
>> instance, by posting to the commons-user or commons-dev lists, I
>> checked (nor am I exactly sure how I could programmaticly check
>> Removing those 16 would reduce the number of active committers to 56,
>> more that 20% reduction in the perceived size of jakarta-commons (by
>> that
>> metric at least).
>> Just to clarify, I have no issues with any or all of those folks
>> maintaining access to the jakarta-commons CVS module, nor is this
>> sort of judgment of a lack of activity (indeed there are a number of
>> folks
>> on that list that I have a lot of respect for).  Rather, this is a
>> recognition that those folks have moved on for the time being and an
>> attempt to make the perceived size of Jakarta Commons more accurately
>> reflect the reality of the matter.  As the guidelines state, a simple
>> post
>> to commons-dev would be all that is needed to restore direct CVS
>> and reverse the inactive status.
>> The Proposal:
>> Unless anyone on that list wants to declare themselves "active" right
>> now
>> (or someone else can vouch for some sort of commons related activity
>> the past year or so), let's invoke that paragraph of the jakarta
>> guidelines and declare these folks "inactive" committers.
>> let's:
>> (1) remove those folks from the avail file and
>> (2) add an "emeritus committers" page (or section of some existing
>> to the jakarta-commons website that acknowledges their contributions
>> indicates the mechanism by which they can once again get CVS access.
>> --
>> - Rod <>
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