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From Harish Krishnaswamy <>
Subject Re: [HiveMind] I don like HiveMind.getDefault and setDefault(Registry)
Date Sun, 14 Sep 2003 23:58:05 GMT
So, in a webapp environment what is the best place to hold the registry? 
Is it the Global? Or do you think pages will also be a part of the 
registry that there will be no need at all for a registry reference, 
that is of course after Tapestry is refactored?


Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote:

>I'm thinking you are right ... its the balance of convienience vs. correctness.  Certainly,
>service implementation should ever use HiveMind.getDefault() ... the BuilderFactory means
they never
>need to find out the registry at all.  The idea was to provide a convienient place for
>code to get at the registry, to get at services.
>Still, I'm now leaning in your direction (removing it); it has the potential to cause
too many
>problems once you introduce class loaders and the like.
>Howard M. Lewis Ship
>Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Essl Christian [] 
>>Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 10:57 AM
>>Subject: [HiveMind] I don like HiveMind.getDefault and 
>>The reason I don't like this is because I guess it can lead 
>>to quite some 
>>problems and it is not realy needed.
>>Just imagine your app uses HiveMind and some api uses 
>>HiveMind internally 
>>but does not document (it is just internal why should it?). 
>>Both register 
>>with setDefault(). Than you have a problem which is not realy 
>>easy to find.
>>The same can happen everywhere where there are different 
>>Think of a tomcat setup where HiveMind is in the 
>>RootClassLoader. Imagine 
>>two different web-apps use HiveMinde (and I think this will 
>>be no rare 
>>case). Each registers its own Registry. Both will end up sharing one 
>>Registry and which one is more or less a matter of luck. This 
>>is realy hard 
>>to debug.
>>Both Service and user code which use the getDefault() will be 
>>more or less 
>>You also don't realy need the getDefault(). Services should take the 
>>Registry to which they belong from the initialize() method or 
>>let it set as 
>>a property. And user code should provide its own way to 
>>access its service. 
>>A user defined static method could be enough (its not realy hard to 
>>So I want to recommend (because HiveMind is quite new) to 
>>just remove the 
>>methods or deprecate them, before users start using them.
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