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Subject: RE: Logging packaging questions
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 08:50:44 -0400
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Thread-Topic: Logging packaging questions
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From: "Shapira, Yoav" <Yoav.Shapira@mpi.com>
To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" <commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org>


Howdy,

>+1, we should recognize someone who spent hours on tomcat-users list
and
>who know that a 10 minutes developper fix, could produce days and day=
s
>of question on user lists.

While I don't have nearly Craig's tenure, nor nearly as many
contributions to the code, I spend a lot of time on both the tomcat-us=
er
and log4j-user mailing list, answering people's question.  I firmly
believe making commons-logging any more than what it's intended to be,=
 a
thin abstraction layer that can automatically detect the present
implementation and use it, will lead to many many more user problems a=
nd
issues than we see today (and we see enough today).  

Strong +1 to what Craig said, strong -1 to separate
commons-logging-[log4j | jdk14 | whatever] implementation jars.

As an aside, we used to have a similar jar versioning system to what
someone else is using (one big directory with jars, symlinks to these
jars from webapps' WEB-INF/lib directories), and we junked it in favor=

of WAR distributions.  In a heterogeneous server environment like ours=
,
the self-contained, portable WAR distribution is king (or queen?  I
guess distribution is female..)

Yoav Shapira


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