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Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 17:21:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: Al Chou <hotfusionman@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [math] [OT]UnivariateImpl - when sumsq ~ xbar*xbar*((double) n)
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--- "Mark R. Diggory" <mdiggory@latte.harvard.edu> wrote:
> Al Chou wrote:
> >>>OK, I hope the article we want is available online, given that it's pretty
> >>>old.
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>Strangely, it's actually the recent stuff that is not available.  JSTOR has
> >>American Statistician from 1947-1997.  If you want a chuckle, have a look
> at
> >>http://www.jstor.org/about/movingwall.html, which explains the rationale
> for
> >>this.
> >>    
> >
> >It's all about money, eh?  Well, as long as we have access to what we need,
> >that's fine.  Incidentally, I'm much more accustomed to seeing online
> editions
> >directly from the publisher, which explains why I expected only issues more
> >recent than some date to be available.
> >
> >
> >Al
>
> 
> Yes, the deal is that JStor would undercut the publishers profits from 
> printing if they exposed an article too soon. JStor isn't a "publisher", 
> just a "digital library". Its the publishers choice to provide access 
> online to the article, if they decide not to release it online, its to 
> promote subscriptions to the printed copies.
> 
> IMHO, in cases where we can't find references to content that is 
> publicly available, we should feel ok about referencing a 
> "semi-protected" source like a journal article as long as its abstract 
> is public and its content is accessible at educational institutions.
> -M.

I agree that references to printed journal articles should be sufficient if
there aren't online references.  There are certainly scientific authors whose
publications reference works that are hard to obtain, and that seems to be
acceptable to the publishers even if it's frustrating to the readers.  I hope
we do at least somewhat better than that.


Al

=====
Albert Davidson Chou

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