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From Ryan Hoegg <rho...@isisnetworks.net>
Subject Re: [VOTE] promote commons attributes to the commons proper
Date Wed, 11 Jun 2003 15:36:59 GMT
Non-binding +1

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Ryan Hoegg
ISIS Networks
http://www.isisnetworks.net

James Strachan wrote:

> Jon, Paul - this is all seeming a little painful to make useful  
> progress working within Jakarta Commons. Adding 1 non-apache 
> committer  to a sandbox project seems too hard right now - we're stuck 
> in a  chicken and egg - some don't want non-apache committers working 
> in the  sandbox and some don't want us promoting a project to commons 
> proper so  we can add a new committer.
>
> Why don't we just scrap commons-attributes in the sandbox and move 
> the  project over to codehaus.org instead? Its certainly the easiest 
> option.
>
>
> On Wednesday, June 11, 2003, at 10:16  am, Martin Cooper wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, James Strachan wrote:
>>
>>> So that we can add some more committers to the commons-attributes
>>> projects to help unify the various attribute-replated projects out
>>> there (initially commons-attributes and Nanning but maybe eventually
>>> attrib4j too) I'd like to propose we promote commons-attributes to the
>>> commons proper. Then we can work on merging the code bases and patches
>>> and working towards an alpha release.
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>> -
>>> Vote:  Promote commons-attributes to commons proper
>>> [ ] +1 I am in favor of the move, and will help support it
>>> [ ] +0 I am in favor of the move, but am unable to help support it
>>> [ ] -0 I am not in favor of the move
>>> [X] -1 I am against this proposal (must include a reason).
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>> -
>>
>>
>> It seems to me that this is entirely the converse of what Apache is  
>> about.
>> The suggestion here is that a project be promoted out of the sandbox in
>> order to build a community around it. That is the *opposite* of what we
>> want to achieve.
>>
>> If the participation of people currently outside of Apache is  
>> necessary to
>> build a community around commons-attributes, then this is a project  
>> that
>> should be developed further elsewhere, and perhaps (re-)introduced 
>> to  the
>> Incubator when that community exists.
>>
>> -- 
>> Martin Cooper
>


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