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From "Phil Steitz" <p...@steitz.com>
Subject Re: [math] Commons Proper
Date Fri, 06 Jun 2003 14:05:16 GMT
Mark R. Diggory wrote:
> Yes, is it possible someone can "rank" the task list, this way I can 
> possibly start to focus some of my own dev on some more neccessary tasks?

I will post a proposed ranking later today, as well as a *proposal* for 
scope of initial release.

Phil

> 
> -M.
> 
> Phil Steitz wrote:
> 
>>
>> I certainly don't feel like we are ready for a release at this time -- 
>> and believe me, I am no perfectionist. My understanding is that you 
>> don't come out of the sandbox until you are ready to release 
>> something.  I think that it is best for us to spend our time getting 
>> things on the task list completed, deciding what we want to include in 
>> a release and doing the work to get there.
>>
>> Phil
>>
>  > Mark R. Diggory wrote:
>  >
>  >> Thanks Tetsuya,
>  >>
>  >> I suspect this would be the path to be taken in the near future.
>  >>
>  >> I think we are getting close, Robert is right, "patience", we will get
>  >> there. But, being mathematicians tend to be perfectionists, I'm not
>  >> sure all of us feel [math] is ready for Commons proper just yet. I'm
>  >> sure others have varying opinions on the matter. All good
>  >> statisticians recognize variability exists in all populations ;-)
>  >>
> 
>>> -Mark
>>>
>>> Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello, Robert and Mark, All.
>>>>
>>>> I think (IMHO) math project is worthy to become,  be promoted to
>>>> commons-proper. There are many commons-proper
>>>> projects which apparently are at standstill in their activities.
>>>> In this situation, Phil and math project seem very active
>>>> and deserve to be notified more widely and openly.
>>>>
>>>> To avoid the apprehensions such as Robert worried,
>>>> IMHO,
>>>> 1. Vote for promotion of the sandbox-math to commons-proper
>>>> 2. Next to #1, nominate, [VOTE] Phil as a committer
>>>> or
>>>> 3. #1 and #2 simultaneously
>>>>
>>>> These above might be fair and good way for the things go well.
>>>>
>>>> I'd love to use the math-product as one of the users eagerly.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>> Tetsuya
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 5 Jun 2003 20:30:05 +0100
>>>> (Subject: Re: [VOTE] New Commiter Phil Steitz)
>>>> robert burrell donkin <robertburrelldonkin@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> i'm sad to do this (since i think that phil's demonstrated the 
>>>>> qualities required and i'd support a nomination when and if math 
>>>>> makes it into the commons proper) but i think that nominating 
>>>>> people for contributions to the sandbox will cause troubles (sooner 
>>>>> or later) and also that it's against the spirit of the common charter.
>>>>>
>>>>> as i understand it, the commons is responsible for supervising the 
>>>>> sandbox,
>>>>>  nothing more. the sandbox is not a subproject in it's own right 
>>>>> and exists only to allow apache developers to collaborate. i 
>>>>> believe that the commons can and should only elect committers for 
>>>>> its own components.
>>>>>
>>>>> i also feel that one of the reasons stated by mark for nomination 
>>>>> (that we need him on board to make it to release) is not a good 
>>>>> one. we in the commons are charged by the ASF with supervising the 
>>>>> sandbox. if there is insufficient energy to push a component 
>>>>> forwards then there will be insufficient energy to properly 
>>>>> supervise new committers. i'd like to ask the math developers for a 
>>>>> little patience. i'm convinced that commons-math has a bright 
>>>>> future but it will take a little time. i also hope that phil 
>>>>> doesn't take this personally (this isn't anything against him 
>>>>> personally but against the principle of nominating new non-apache 
>>>>> committers for sandbox components).
>>>>>
>>>>> -1
>>>>>
>>>>> - robert
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------
>>>> Tetsuya Kitahata --  Terra-International, Inc.
>>>> E-mail: kitahata@bb.mbn.or.jp : tetsuya@apache.org
>>>> http://www.terra-intl.com/
>>>> (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese)
>>>> http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/
>>>>
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