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From "Mark R. Diggory" <mdigg...@latte.harvard.edu>
Subject Re: [math] Commons Proper
Date Fri, 06 Jun 2003 14:02:51 GMT
Yes, is it possible someone can "rank" the task list, this way I can 
possibly start to focus some of my own dev on some more neccessary tasks?

-M.

Phil Steitz wrote:
> 
> I certainly don't feel like we are ready for a release at this time -- 
> and believe me, I am no perfectionist. My understanding is that you 
> don't come out of the sandbox until you are ready to release something. 
>  I think that it is best for us to spend our time getting things on the 
> task list completed, deciding what we want to include in a release and 
> doing the work to get there.
> 
> Phil
> 
 > Mark R. Diggory wrote:
 >
 >> Thanks Tetsuya,
 >>
 >> I suspect this would be the path to be taken in the near future.
 >>
 >> I think we are getting close, Robert is right, "patience", we will get
 >> there. But, being mathematicians tend to be perfectionists, I'm not
 >> sure all of us feel [math] is ready for Commons proper just yet. I'm
 >> sure others have varying opinions on the matter. All good
 >> statisticians recognize variability exists in all populations ;-)
 >>
>> -Mark
>>
>> Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
>>
>>> Hello, Robert and Mark, All.
>>>
>>> I think (IMHO) math project is worthy to become,  be promoted to
>>> commons-proper. There are many commons-proper
>>> projects which apparently are at standstill in their activities.
>>> In this situation, Phil and math project seem very active
>>> and deserve to be notified more widely and openly.
>>>
>>> To avoid the apprehensions such as Robert worried,
>>> IMHO,
>>> 1. Vote for promotion of the sandbox-math to commons-proper
>>> 2. Next to #1, nominate, [VOTE] Phil as a committer
>>> or
>>> 3. #1 and #2 simultaneously
>>>
>>> These above might be fair and good way for the things go well.
>>>
>>> I'd love to use the math-product as one of the users eagerly.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Tetsuya
>>>
>>> -- 
>>>
>>> On Thu, 5 Jun 2003 20:30:05 +0100
>>> (Subject: Re: [VOTE] New Commiter Phil Steitz)
>>> robert burrell donkin <robertburrelldonkin@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> i'm sad to do this (since i think that phil's demonstrated the 
>>>> qualities required and i'd support a nomination when and if math 
>>>> makes it into the commons proper) but i think that nominating people 
>>>> for contributions to the sandbox will cause troubles (sooner or 
>>>> later) and also that it's against the spirit of the common charter.
>>>>
>>>> as i understand it, the commons is responsible for supervising the 
>>>> sandbox,
>>>>  nothing more. the sandbox is not a subproject in it's own right and 
>>>> exists only to allow apache developers to collaborate. i believe 
>>>> that the commons can and should only elect committers for its own 
>>>> components.
>>>>
>>>> i also feel that one of the reasons stated by mark for nomination 
>>>> (that we need him on board to make it to release) is not a good one. 
>>>> we in the commons are charged by the ASF with supervising the 
>>>> sandbox. if there is insufficient energy to push a component 
>>>> forwards then there will be insufficient energy to properly 
>>>> supervise new committers. i'd like to ask the math developers for a 
>>>> little patience. i'm convinced that commons-math has a bright future 
>>>> but it will take a little time. i also hope that phil doesn't take 
>>>> this personally (this isn't anything against him personally but 
>>>> against the principle of nominating new non-apache committers for 
>>>> sandbox components).
>>>>
>>>> -1
>>>>
>>>> - robert
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----------------------------------------------------
>>> Tetsuya Kitahata --  Terra-International, Inc.
>>> E-mail: kitahata@bb.mbn.or.jp : tetsuya@apache.org
>>> http://www.terra-intl.com/
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>>>
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