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From "Mark R. Diggory" <mdigg...@latte.harvard.edu>
Subject Re: [math] Commons Proper
Date Fri, 06 Jun 2003 13:58:19 GMT
I'm starting to use it in my sourceforge project 
(http://repast-jellytag.sourceforge.net) for gathering descriptive stats 
on simulations. That makes me a user.

I'm also planning a small jelly taglibrary to expose some interesting 
capabilities for stats in Jelly.

-Mark


Juozas Baliuka wrote:
>  Project must have community to be promoted. Component developed in sandbox
> have a risk to die without users community. I think it  needs a few months
> to live in sandbox to prove the community is active (or die in sandbox, not
> in commons proper).
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark R. Diggory" <mdiggory@latte.harvard.edu>
> To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" <commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 3:18 PM
> Subject: [math] Commons Proper (was: Re: [VOTE] New Commiter Phil Steitz)
> 
> 
> 
>>Thanks Tetsuya,
>>
>>I suspect this would be the path to be taken in the near future.
>>
>>I think we are getting close, Robert is right, "patience", we will get
>>there. But, being mathematicians tend to be perfectionists, I'm not sure
>>all of us feel [math] is ready for Commons proper just yet. I'm sure
>>others have varying opinions on the matter. All good statisticians
>>recognize variability exists in all populations ;-)
>>
>>-Mark
>>
>>Tetsuya Kitahata wrote:
>>
>>>Hello, Robert and Mark, All.
>>>
>>>I think (IMHO) math project is worthy to become,  be promoted to
>>>commons-proper. There are many commons-proper
>>>projects which apparently are at standstill in their activities.
>>>In this situation, Phil and math project seem very active
>>>and deserve to be notified more widely and openly.
>>>
>>>To avoid the apprehensions such as Robert worried,
>>>IMHO,
>>>1. Vote for promotion of the sandbox-math to commons-proper
>>>2. Next to #1, nominate, [VOTE] Phil as a committer
>>>or
>>>3. #1 and #2 simultaneously
>>>
>>>These above might be fair and good way for the things go well.
>>>
>>>I'd love to use the math-product as one of the users eagerly.
>>>
>>>Sincerely,
>>>
>>>Tetsuya
>>>
>>>--
>>>
>>>On Thu, 5 Jun 2003 20:30:05 +0100
>>>(Subject: Re: [VOTE] New Commiter Phil Steitz)
>>>robert burrell donkin <robertburrelldonkin@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>i'm sad to do this (since i think that phil's demonstrated the qualities
>>>>required and i'd support a nomination when and if math makes it into the
>>>>commons proper) but i think that nominating people for contributions to
>>>>the sandbox will cause troubles (sooner or later) and also that it's
>>>>against the spirit of the common charter.
>>>>
>>>>as i understand it, the commons is responsible for supervising the
> 
> sandbox,
> 
>>>> nothing more. the sandbox is not a subproject in it's own right and
>>>>exists only to allow apache developers to collaborate. i believe that
> 
> the
> 
>>>>commons can and should only elect committers for its own components.
>>>>
>>>>i also feel that one of the reasons stated by mark for nomination (that
> 
> we
> 
>>>>need him on board to make it to release) is not a good one. we in the
>>>>commons are charged by the ASF with supervising the sandbox. if there is
>>>>insufficient energy to push a component forwards then there will be
>>>>insufficient energy to properly supervise new committers. i'd like to
> 
> ask
> 
>>>>the math developers for a little patience. i'm convinced that
> 
> commons-math
> 
>>>>has a bright future but it will take a little time. i also hope that
> 
> phil
> 
>>>>doesn't take this personally (this isn't anything against him personally
>>>>but against the principle of nominating new non-apache committers for
>>>>sandbox components).
>>>>
>>>>-1
>>>>
>>>>- robert
>>>
>>>
>>>-----------------------------------------------------
>>>Tetsuya Kitahata --  Terra-International, Inc.
>>>E-mail: kitahata@bb.mbn.or.jp : tetsuya@apache.org
>>>http://www.terra-intl.com/
>>>(Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese)
>>>http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/
>>>
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