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From Tetsuya Kitahata <>
Subject Re: [MATH] Re: Incubator (Re: [VOTE] New Commiter Phil Steitz)
Date Thu, 12 Jun 2003 02:02:26 GMT

On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 07:15:32 -0400
(Subject: Re: [MATH] Re: Incubator (Re: [VOTE] New Commiter Phil Steitz))
"Mark R. Diggory" <> wrote:

> I guess my concern is that [math] is primarily being built by individual 
> contributors and not one specific group, its not one big code donation, 
> Which is what I took the Incubator charter to mean by
> "the Apache Incubator PMC be and hereby is responsible for the 
> acceptance and oversight of new products submitted or proposed to become 
> part of the Foundation".
> Am I right/wrong?

This is my interpretation, so please do not take it as an Incubator
Project PMC's one.

-- Apache Incubator welcomes the projects which are already decided
-- their destinations. In "Math"'s case, it is destined to go back
-- to commons, so we can accept.

-- Incubator Project might have two posibillities.

-- 1. Donation from other communities (sourceforge, etc.), and
--    which have to be molded to be fit to ASF's licenses, voting
--    rules, etc.
-- 2. Apache Projects to be molded more to form healthy community

-- As for <1>, Tapestry and Lenya were the cases. (Tapestry went
-- to the top of jakarta, Lenya went under the Cocoon project, finally)
-- As for <2>, current "FTPServer" and "AltRMI" are the cases

-- [Math] could have the possiblities of <2> not <1>.

I am not sure the history of "FTPServer" and "AltRMI", so 
maybe I am wrong.
(I've heard the "Tapestry", "Lenya"'s cases already)

> thanks for the "cross pollination",

I am still wondering that "math" might have come to get more
NEEDs not only as "small scalable components" but also as "endurable
for commercial use, complexed components, alike to commercial products".
The latter case, there might be a possibilities that "jakarta-maths and
jakarta-commons-math" co-exist...(Also, the community, developers might
be the same) I am not sure my intuition would be realistic or not.


-- Tetsuya (

Tetsuya Kitahata --  Terra-International, Inc.
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