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From robert burrell donkin <>
Subject Re: [VOTE] New Commiter Phil Steitz
Date Thu, 05 Jun 2003 19:30:05 GMT
i'm sad to do this (since i think that phil's demonstrated the qualities 
required and i'd support a nomination when and if math makes it into the 
commons proper) but i think that nominating people for contributions to 
the sandbox will cause troubles (sooner or later) and also that it's 
against the spirit of the common charter.

as i understand it, the commons is responsible for supervising the sandbox,
  nothing more. the sandbox is not a subproject in it's own right and 
exists only to allow apache developers to collaborate. i believe that the 
commons can and should only elect committers for its own components.

i also feel that one of the reasons stated by mark for nomination (that we 
need him on board to make it to release) is not a good one. we in the 
commons are charged by the ASF with supervising the sandbox. if there is 
insufficient energy to push a component forwards then there will be 
insufficient energy to properly supervise new committers. i'd like to ask 
the math developers for a little patience. i'm convinced that commons-math 
has a bright future but it will take a little time. i also hope that phil 
doesn't take this personally (this isn't anything against him personally 
but against the principle of nominating new non-apache committers for 
sandbox components).


- robert

On Thursday, June 5, 2003, at 02:39 PM, Mark R. Diggory wrote:

> I'm not sure if I have enough rights yet to nominate Phil Steitz for 
> commiter (I just became a commiter myself). Phil is the initial proposal 
> author on the math project. That in and of itself should be enough to 
> warrant his inclusion. Phil has been supplying many patches and is now 
> considering development of the "complex number" architecture for the 
> package. I think he would make an excellent commiter as he has done a 
> great deal of work via patches to clarify the coding, testing and 
> documentation standards for the math project. We *need* him to have 
> commit rights on this project before we can make it to release.
> +1
> Mark Diggory
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