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From robert burrell donkin <>
Subject Re: opening up jakarta-commons-sandbox
Date Wed, 23 Apr 2003 13:43:25 GMT
hi leo

i don't recall a formal VOTE on this (but i'd be happy to be corrected if 
someone could supply an archive url). i'd be in favour of widening sandbox 
access to any java based components created by any apache committers but 
IMHO to do this properly requires a change to the commons charter which 
definitely requires a proper formal VOTE (rather than lazy consensus).

we might want to take this opertunity to think about the relationship 
between jakarta-commons and the commons project. if the sandbox is going 
to be opened up to all apache committers, it might be worth thinking about 
whether it would there would be merit in asking the commons project to 
take responsibility (from a PMC perspective) for the sandbox since it 
would in effect be apache-wide.

- robert

On Wednesday, April 23, 2003, at 01:25 PM, Leo Simons wrote:

> ping? can someone confirm and act? Just do it myself?
> Leo Simons wrote:
>> Hi gang,
>> I understand from Nicola Ken that y'all agreed to and voted on opening 
>> up the commons sandbox to people who are not jakarta committers, but 
>> this was not finalized. If that's correct, it'd be nice if it were (so 
>> avalon committers who are not jakarta committers can work with all the 
>> people over here, inside that sandbox, for example, which is why it 
>> popped up on dev@avalon).
>> To make that happen, someone who is ideally both on the jakarta PMC and 
>> a jakarta-commons committer should send a request to 
>> to change the cvs avail file to grant all 
>> apache committers access, ie
>> ---
>> from: <someone>
>> to:
>> cc:,
>> subject: please update avail info for jakarta-commons-sandbox
>> Hi infrastructure,
>> we have voted to open up the jakarta commons sandbox to all apache 
>> committers. Can someone please change the cvs avail file accordingly, ie 
>> update the entry for jakarta-commons-sandbox to
>> avail||jakarta-commons-sandbox
>> thanks, best regards,
>> <someone>, jakarta-commons committer and Jakarta PMC member
>> ---
>> of course, the danger exists there is someone on this list who is an 
>> apcvs admin who will Just Do It(tm) (fingers crossed ;).
>> cheers and happy easter,
>> - Leo Simons
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