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From "Martin Cooper" <>
Subject RE: License and copyright issues
Date Mon, 21 Oct 2002 17:56:53 GMT
I found a few things not yet mentioned:

1) In codec\, "Copyright 1997, William B. Brogden", which is
clearly a problem.

2) In scaffold, numerous instances of "Copyright (c) 2002 Synthis
Corporation.", also clearly a problem.

3) There are many, many cases where an abbreviated form of the Apache
license is used. I don't recall whether this is permitted or not, but I know
at the very least it's "not recommended".

Martin Cooper

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Costin Manolache []
> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 7:43 PM
> To:
> Subject: License and copyright issues
> The following was posted by Roy Fielding:
> "Just look at the commons cvs -- there is code present
> that was taken from another open source project, the license removed,
> and replaced with the committer's own copyright alongside that of the
> ASF.  That isn't just contrary to our guidelines; it is immoral!
> And, it has been there for four months without anyone so much as
> lifting a finger (not to mention deleting the module, which is what
> I would have done).  If that isn't cause to terminate an 
> entire project,
> I don't know what is."
> This is a very serious accusation, and it seems other people 
> are aware of this issue - yet neither jakarta-commons nor 
> jakarta PMC have been informed ( at least to my knowledge ).
> We may have too much traffic - or maybe people don't know
> about, or maybe those who claim 'we don't
> care' are right.
> As you should know, it is our duty to review the code that
> is checked in and make sure it respect some basic rules. 
> I think it is essential for us to find the code and 
> find out how this happened and how it can be prevented in the 
> future. Nothing is perfect - and it is possible that people 
> don't understand the rules or just didn't think.
> I can't find many excuses for whoever noticed and who knew 
> about that and 
> failed to  notify the community or the PMC - and I include 
> Roy here. But
> that doesn't change the fact that we have a serious and major 
> problem - 
> I think it is our fault in the first place as commons 
> commiters for letting 
> such a thing happen. 
> Since I still can't find out what code he is reffering to - I 
> would like
> to ask for your support in identifying it ( and fixing the problem,
> of course ), and then to discuss and try to find out solutions to 
> avoid this in future.
> Costin
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