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From "Stephen Colebourne" <scolebou...@btopenworld.com>
Subject Apache commons [was:Re: Naming issues]
Date Mon, 21 Oct 2002 19:46:45 GMT
But Nicola Ken, the basic problem is that I don't support the merging of a
Java commons with a non-Java commons. There are way too many issues
generated and few if any benefits. So, I should spend even more of my time
subscribing to yet another list, to get another 50 emails a day, just to say
no.

And whats more, no-ones given me any opportunity to vote on it. Its being
presented as a fait accompli. (And yes I've read your email about it not
being imposed, but it sure as hell feels that way).

This 'reorg' is going to be very community destroying before long.

Stephen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicola Ken Barozzi" <nicolaken@apache.org>
To: "Jakarta General List" <general@jakarta.apache.org>
Cc: <commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: Naming issues


>
> Michael A. Smith wrote:
> > On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> >
> >>Why not just decide to move the Jakarta Commons projects to Commons and
> >>the Sandbox ones to Incubator?
> >>
> >>This is not a proposal for a diktat, but a *suggestion* for Jakarta
> >>Commons projects to take part of the Commons and Incubator Project
creation.
> >>
> >>  general-subscribe@commons.apache.org
> >
> >
> > As far as jakarta-commons goes (ignoring the sandbox/incubator), I sent
> > a message to commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org asking whether this is
> > something we, as committers on jakarta-commons, wanted to consider, and
> > so far the only real reaction was major uncertainty due to the lack of
> > defined structure/procedures in @commons.apache.
>
> Yeah, that's why I posted it here!
>
> Come on guys, come over to general@commons.apache.org, let's make
> ourselves heard, help create the rules there, so finally Commons can
> have it's top-level project!
>
> It's not something that has to be imposed, we can help over there!
>
>             general-subscribe@commons.apache.org
>
> > hrrmmm...  when'd this thread move from reorg@apache to general@jakarta?
> > strange.
>
> hehehe, when I cross-posted ;-)
>
> Oh, and now I'm at it, here it goes, welcome to the discussion
> commons-dev!  :-D
>
> --
> Nicola Ken Barozzi                   nicolaken@apache.org
>              - verba volant, scripta manent -
>     (discussions get forgotten, just code remains)
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