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From Dmitri Plotnikov <dplot...@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: Proposal: JSP/JSTL expression language
Date Thu, 25 Jul 2002 16:07:12 GMT
Forgot this:

+1 (would even vote +2 if the rules allowed :-)

- Dmitri


--- Dmitri Plotnikov <dplotnik@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> --- "Geir Magnusson Jr." <geirm@adeptra.com> wrote:
> > On 7/20/02 6:11 AM, "Stephen Colebourne"
> > <scolebourne@btopenworld.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > I knew I had a sense of deja vu. So the question becomes, can the
> > JSP EL and
> > > JEXL projects become simply plugins to, or part of the JEX
> project?
> > 
> > I don't think that's the right way to go - I think that JEX should
> > (if it
> > wants to) support all of these things.  But my feeling is that any
> > kind of
> > scriptish project should be independent (for purposes of
> > innovation...)
> > 
> 
> I agree with Geir that individual languages should not be constrained
> by something like JEX and therefore should not be mere plug-ins. 
> However, it might be a good idea to get them to conform to it.
> 
> Contributing JEX I was thinking: with all these expression languages
> popping up, each framework that needs one has to either choose a
> specific language or have a pluggability mechanism.  An example of
> the
> former approach is JSTL, which after several pre-releases allowing
> multiple languages ended up with just one - EL.  An example of the
> latter approach is Jelly that has a pluggability mechanism similar to
> JEX.  To me this clearly calls for a set of common API/SPI.
> 
> Of course, the "right" way to introduce such APIs would be a JSR
> similar to JAXP in the XML parser world.  But I have no idea how to
> get
> from here to there.
> 
> One more point. I wanted to make sure it is understood that I don't
> really see JEX as "my" project and do not want to control its
> destiny. 
> I completely understand how considerations of ownership can stand in
> its way.  I cordially invite everybody who has interest in the
> unification of expression language APIs to join me as a
> co-contributor
> on the JEX project.
> 
> [snip]
> 
> - Dmitri
> 
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