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From d...@multitask.com.au
Subject Re: unmavenising Commons projects
Date Mon, 24 Jun 2002 22:08:58 GMT
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costinm@covalent.net wrote on 06/25/2002 03:59:43 AM:

> On Tue, 25 Jun 2002 dion@multitask.com.au wrote:
> 
> > Costin,
> > 
> > I'll -1 any change to use centipede until it's a 1.0 release, and a 
vote's 
> > been called, since they're the rules you seem to be applying here :)
> 
> Well, if it is ok to use maven which is not a 1.0 release, why do you
> feel it's not ok to use centipede betas ?
> 
> The whole point is that Gump ( and hopefully centipede ) doesn't require
> a project to 'change to use gump', it can adapt to the project's build 
> structure. Gump curently builds all jakarta and only few projects 
> maintain the descriptors.
> 
> If Centipeded can do that - of course it'll be a vote on each project
> on using it, and the commiters should state their opinion.
> 
> ( I'm personally more interested in tomcat, since building it is 
> harder than most commons components ). 
> 
> 
> > FWIW Centipede is more like Maven than Gump, and actually integrates 
with 
> > Gump rather than tries to replace it. So feel free to discuss 
centipede, 
> > but keep it on topic ( :-) ), or use the centipede mailing lists over 
on 
> > sourceforge, since questions about what Centipede can do belong there.
> 
> The topis is improving the build system on commons - probably jakarta 
> general would be a better topic, and probably tomcat-dev and each 
project 
> list if/when Maven/Centipede/watever are able to do what gump does ( and 

> more ).
> 
> I haven't look too much at centipede - I just heard the claim that it 
> can solve my itch, and I'll try to find if it's true.
> 
> Costin
> 
> 
> 
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> > 
> > costinm@covalent.net wrote on 06/25/2002 03:00:59 AM:
> > 
> > > On Mon, 24 Jun 2002, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > I think, I will use Maven (I like "Maven encourages the use of a


> > central 
> > > > > repository of JARs"),
> > > > 
> > > > Try centipede.
> > > > It uses commons' JJAR for it, uses the standard Gump descriptor 
and 
> > uses 
> > > > integrates nicely with Ant.
> > > 
> > > Can it build tomcat without replacing build.xml, using the gump 
> > > descriptors ? Can it build Commons packages from the gump 
descriptors ?
> > > Can it build the whole jakarta from the gump descriptors ? Is it 
> > > easier to use than gump ? 
> > > 
> > > If the answer is yes - we should stop discussing about Maven ( which
> > > aparently is not intended as a gump replacement, but only for 
doc/site
> > > generation and many other features ), and start discussing about 
> > > using centipede to build commons ( and tomcat, etc ).
> > > 
> > > Costin
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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