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From Martin van den Bemt <mll...@mvdb.net>
Subject Re: [Betwixt] benchmarks [WAS Re: [VOTE] move Betwixt into commons proper (was Re: Betwixt &MethodUpdaters)]
Date Thu, 06 Jun 2002 22:07:40 GMT

I don't like to have a direct comparison. 
The explanation of that statement is pretty simple :
You are comparing different things and preformance is pretty relative to
the use case and how well betwixt fits into the goal to be achieved.

I (normally) make a decision based on this fact. So to keep people like
me out of trouble, I suggest the following :)

Make a nice simple list with things you can do with it.
Add for every use case a small example, which allows you to see pretty
quick if it is usable for you scenario
If you already know it is not useable for a certain scneario, add it to
the "It Cannot" list and ask people to make it or mention tools that can
do the job for you (at least if we know of them). 

In short : 
I prefer to say what we can do, instead of what others cannot. 

Mvgr,
Martin

PS Will be back on sunday..


On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 20:33, robert burrell donkin wrote:
> hi Ivelin
> 
> a good answer to the comparison FAQ (rather than just the tied old 'of 
> course our one is better 'cos we created it!') would be very useful.
> 
> fancy volunteering?
> 
> it'd be cool to have the benchmark and comparison from someone who has a 
> user perspective (rather than a betwixt developer).
> 
> - robert
> 
> On Thursday, June 6, 2002, at 01:38 PM, Ivelin Ivanov wrote:
> 
> >
> > James,
> >
> >
> > Since Betwixt is approaching release and there are several projects which
> > use it for real, do you plan to run a set of benchmarks against the main
> > competitors: Castor, JAXB, etc. ?
> > With the wide selection available a publicly published set of benchmarks 
> > can
> > help people understand what each tool is best in.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Ivelin
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <dion@multitask.com.au>
> > To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" <commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 10:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: [VOTE] move Betwixt into commons proper (was Re: Betwixt
> > &MethodUpdaters)
> >
> >
> >>
> >> I'm +1.
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> >>                     <geirm@adeptra       cc:
> >>                     .com>                Subject:     Re: [VOTE] move
> > Betwixt into commons proper (was Re: Betwixt
> >>                                           & MethodUpdaters)
> >>                     06/05/02 10:11
> >>                     PM
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> +1 from a non-participant...
> >>
> >> On 6/5/02 6:49 AM, "James Strachan" <james_strachan@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Jason van Zyl" <jvanzyl@zenplex.com>
> >>>>
> >>>> It now looks like the bugs have been squashed so how about we propose
> > to
> >>>> move Betwixt up to the commons proper and do a release?
> >>>
> >>> Sounds good with me. Lets do it in 2 stages, move to commons proper
> >> first,
> >>> then leave it a couple of days to check that noone can find any more
> >> bugs,
> >>> then lets call another vote to release it.
> >>>
> >>> So here's the first vote, to move betwixt to commons proper. Already
> >> there's
> >>> 4 developers and several projects using betwixt so I think it passes all
> >> the
> >>> conditions.
> >>>
> >>> http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/betwixt/developer-list.html
> >>>
> >>> I'm +1
> >>>
> >>> James
> >>>
> >>>
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